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The world in 2020 will be a different world then the one we live in today then watch out because the 2020's will be fantastic.
Humans are incapable of predicting what a post-singularity civilization would be like. You assume utopia. Have you considered any of the possible negative results or have you dismissed them out of hand? It sounds like the latter.
Maybe not everything advances but as a whole computers have and will continue to advance exponentially. Why I am typing on a smart phone today and in the next 6 I will have wearable tech and in the 2020's I will merge with computers. That is all I am saying in a nut shell.
This is an ill-defined statement.
If you have a fishbowl with water in it, and the temperature is going up, but the water level is going down (due to a leak), can you say the fishbowl is "advancing overall"?
What if the fishbowl has water being added, but the temperature is fixed, can you say it's "going up overall"?
It depends on what parameters you measure it by.
Same with computers. If some parameters are advancing and others are flat, what do you mean when you say it's going up overall?
In my last post and in post #1360, I gave examples of parameters of computers that have been flat.
So how are the computers different from the fishbowl in my example?
And you still have yet to quantify how merged with technology one is, as we discussed before in posts #1485-1486. Since you haven't quantified it, what on earth do you mean by you'll merge with technology in the 2020s?
As I have posted I can't get into tech details. I just can look at the broad changes that have taken place since I was a kid then look at what will happen. One simple question. Do you agree or not agree that we will be merging with computers by 2030?
As I have posted I can't get into tech details. I just can look at the broad changes that have taken place since I was a kid then look at what will happen. One simple question. Do you agree or not agree that we will be merging with computers by 2030?
Depends on what you mean by that.
I certainly do expect a much wider range of electronic implants to be available in 2030 than today, but I also expect them to remain expensive. Not necessarily the implants themselves, but the associated costs such as immunosuppression treatment/drugs.
I certainly do expect a much wider range of electronic implants to be available in 2030 than today, but I also expect them to remain expensive. Not necessarily the implants themselves, but the associated costs such as immunosuppression treatment/drugs.
I was talking with some colleagues of mine a few years ago - one of them had a lot of problems with seasonal allergies. He said his eyes were torturing him.
So I remarked that it would be so much easier if he could just replace his eyes with CCD cameras.
Another colleague who has a lot of experience in bio-physics told us that connecting a nerve to a computer wire, etc. is difficult because of the immune response and other responses, and cells in a laboratory often atrophy when in contact with some solid materials.
Can we treat itchy eyes in 2030 by just trading them for CCD cameras? Maybe. But the treatment will be costly and time-consuming, as the bio-tech needed will be the main factor.
Humans are incapable of predicting what a post-singularity civilization would be like.
This is true and why its called the singularity as by 2045 its impossible to know what life will be like.
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Originally Posted by SimplySagacious
You assume utopia. Have you considered any of the possible negative results or have you dismissed them out of hand? It sounds like the latter.
It will not be utopia life never is. In my opinion it will be better then life is today much like life is better today then it was back before the industrial revolution.
I certainly do expect a much wider range of electronic implants to be available in 2030 than today, but I also expect them to remain expensive. Not necessarily the implants themselves, but the associated costs such as immunosuppression treatment/drugs.
So you partially agree with me just disagree on the price. I mean look at the smart phone as I just got the I Phone 6 Plus with 128 GB for only $350. Tech price goes down and that will be the case as we merge with it in the 2020's.
Upgrade Your Brain: Liquid Hard Drive Implants Could Increase Intellect
When I saw this I had to post it because the implications are going to be great!
This is from the International Business Times:
Storing photos, documents and other files in brain-implantable liquid could one day be a reality after researchers discovered a new method of storing data in microscopic particles suspended in a solution.
Scientists at the University of Michigan realised that digital information could be stored on colloidal clusters after observing them switch between two states - such as the 0s and 1s of traditional bits - when placed in a liquid.
A research paper detailing the team's findings, entitled Digital Colloids: Reconfigurable Clusters as High Information Density Elements, was recently published in the journal Soft Matter.
X = today's electronics in cars
Z = tomorrow's electronics of cars, exclusive of system components needed for autonomous driving (such as a "beefed up" version of what UPS has that you mentioned).
Y = system components needed for autonomous driving
Well yes. This means that you can be right if there won't be any "Z" (X < X+Y)and I can if there will be (X>=< Z+Y).
I think that your number of say 7000$ is correct (and even kind of big), I also think a computer + sensors in 2020 won't cost 500$ (I checked out LIDARs and they go for <100$ today, prices falling.) so there is a big leeway here (return on investment, installations, ..., ...) so IMO the possibility is, I think, most probable.
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