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Old 05-27-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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Did you graduate from Coastal Carolina? You don't seem to understand anything.

First, do I think Toyota's CEO or operating committee know about York SC, no. Doubt they know much about SC, no need to understand 46 counties in SC and 100 in NC. Or the thousand in other states. That is why they hire consultants who are not internal but provide a service just like a supplier does to Boeing. And guess who consultants talk with, Bobby Hitt at the commerce department to understand available site in SC. It is why the state has offices in other countries, to sell the state because if you aren't selling your message, you won't get a look. Do you think folks sit in board rooms and say, let's look at SC, it has traditionally been last in education, is a poor state and has almost no Fortune 500 company HQs but, I bet they can build a plane. Is that what you are saying? If so, why does commerce recruit industry? Why did Sanford recruit Boeing so hard? Do you think Alabama just sits back and says we don't need a commerce department because companies will know we are here due to the operating committees knowing everything about all counties? It is obvious that you are not in business, you have absolutely no concept about what happens. Want proof that CEOs don't know every site, read the BMW example, he thought the plant was headed to Anderson until he saw the GSP site. The state pitched Anderson for some strange reason and by observation and quick thinking by George Dean Johnson, the site was moved to Spartanburg. The CEO never knew about the site until he saw it. And, that is in the same region of SC. If BMW's I house research team knew so much about SC, why did the CEO select another site when flying in to look at Anderson. Sorry, you are way wrong and can't admit how little you know. 100% of what you have said is wrong.

As for TM, how would a company know about York unless the state provided more detailed information? Better yet, what incentive does TM have to look at SC without being contacted by the state. SC is not a state that is traditionally strong in headquarters operation which is exactly why I think the state needs to step up recruiting efforts. In the case of TM, NC was the lead recruiter but SC could have and should have talked to the company and said look, you can still be in Charlotte with a lower tax structure. Of course, that is above your head.

Charleston popular worldwide, dream on. In travel magazines charleston is known. In business or everyday life, it does not register. But what would you know, you think the area can support the NFL.
It's kind of hard to deny that more people know about Charleston than Charlotte, and it's not like NC has a city on the ocean that could possibly rival Charleston. Any city can have plenty of office buildings but a city like Charleston isn't exactly common, that being a city with plenty of beaches but is also a large port. At the moment the Charleston port handles 76$ million in cargo each day or about 26$ Billion per year, that number will only increase when the new terminal is opened up, beyond the port though Charleston is also a rather popular tourist spot something that Charlotte can't even pretend to claim.
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Old 05-27-2014, 05:44 PM
 
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It's kind of hard to deny that more people know about Charleston than Charlotte, and it's not like NC has a city on the ocean that could possibly rival Charleston. Any city can have plenty of office buildings but a city like Charleston isn't exactly common, that being a city with plenty of beaches but is also a large port. At the moment the Charleston port handles 76$ million in cargo each day or about 26$ Billion per year, that number will only increase when the new terminal is opened up, beyond the port though Charleston is also a rather popular tourist spot something that Charlotte can't even pretend to claim.
Even though I don't want to get in this but Charlotte actually gets more tourist then Charleston does.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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Even though I don't want to get in this but Charlotte actually gets more tourist then Charleston does.
How.... what does Charlotte even have?

According to Business Insider Charleston is ranked 15th and Charlotte wasn't ranked
http://www.businessinsider.com/tripa...arleston-sc-11
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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Did you graduate from Coastal Carolina? You don't seem to understand anything.

First, do I think Toyota's CEO or operating committee know about York SC, no. Doubt they know much about SC, no need to understand 46 counties in SC and 100 in NC. Or the thousand in other states. That is why they hire consultants who are not internal but provide a service just like a supplier does to Boeing. And guess who consultants talk with, Bobby Hitt at the commerce department to understand available site in SC. It is why the state has offices in other countries, to sell the state because if you aren't selling your message, you won't get a look. Do you think folks sit in board rooms and say, let's look at SC, it has traditionally been last in education, is a poor state and has almost no Fortune 500 company HQs but, I bet they can build a plane. Is that what you are saying? If so, why does commerce recruit industry? Why did Sanford recruit Boeing so hard? Do you think Alabama just sits back and says we don't need a commerce department because companies will know we are here due to the operating committees knowing everything about all counties? It is obvious that you are not in business, you have absolutely no concept about what happens. Want proof that CEOs don't know every site, read the BMW example, he thought the plant was headed to Anderson until he saw the GSP site. The state pitched Anderson for some strange reason and by observation and quick thinking by George Dean Johnson, the site was moved to Spartanburg. The CEO never knew about the site until he saw it. And, that is in the same region of SC. If BMW's I house research team knew so much about SC, why did the CEO select another site when flying in to look at Anderson. Sorry, you are way wrong and can't admit how little you know. 100% of what you have said is wrong.

As for TM, how would a company know about York unless the state provided more detailed information? Better yet, what incentive does TM have to look at SC without being contacted by the state. SC is not a state that is traditionally strong in headquarters operation which is exactly why I think the state needs to step up recruiting efforts. In the case of TM, NC was the lead recruiter but SC could have and should have talked to the company and said look, you can still be in Charlotte with a lower tax structure. Of course, that is above your head.

Charleston popular worldwide, dream on. In travel magazines charleston is known. In business or everyday life, it does not register. But what would you know, you think the area can support the NFL.
HAHA, I hit a nerve!
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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How.... what does Charlotte even have?

According to Business Insider Charleston is ranked 15th and Charlotte wasn't ranked
TripAdvisor Travelers' Choice Winners - Business Insider
The same way Atlanta isn't on the list but get's nearly 30 million tourist a year. Charlotte get's 14 million tourist a year.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:46 PM
 
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How.... what does Charlotte even have?

According to Business Insider Charleston is ranked 15th and Charlotte wasn't ranked
TripAdvisor Travelers' Choice Winners - Business Insider
How? Seriously? Between 16 and 20m people visit Charlotte annually, charleston is just under 5m, not even the most in SC.

Personally, I think it depends on who you ask. In business, Charleston won't register. There is not much there compared with Charlotte's fortune 500 company HQ operations, a faster growing business base, and of course the 40m folks who use CLT annually.

In sports, Charlotte has the NFL, NBA, Golf, NASCAR and some NCAA games ranging from the Final Four to regional games.

In media/news, Charlotte. The city has hosted one of the largest events in the DNC. Media from around the world were here before and after the event. In addition, much of ESPN's college broadcast are out of Charlotte, the SEC Network is based in Charlotte as are all NASCAR media operations.

People voting with their feet....Charlotte. Charlotte attracts between 40 -55k new residents on an annual basis. The equivalent of every 1.5 years, the entire city of Mt Pleasant moves to Charlotte. In the best years, Charleston gets 14k, a lot of which are retirees looking to pay almost no taxes in SC.

Vacationers.....Charleston. It has the beach and is marketed as a vacation destination.

Magazines like to publish lists which get the locals excited but it is driven by many factors not related to core data. Besides, magazine subscriptions are not representative of the population.

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Old 05-27-2014, 06:47 PM
 
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HAHA, I hit a nerve!
No, you just have no idea what you are talking about, your posts are actually funny. We aren't laughing at you.......no, we are.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:53 PM
 
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How? Seriously? Between 16 and 20m people visit Charlotte annually, charleston is just under 5m, not even the most in SC.

Personally, I think it depends on who you ask. In business, Charleston won't register. There is not much there compared with Charlotte's fortune 500 company HQ operations, a faster growing business base, and of course the 40m folks who use CLT annually.

In sports, Charlotte has the NFL, NBA, Golf, NASCAR and some NCAA games ranging from the Final Four to regional games.

In media/news, Charlotte. The city has hosted one of the largest events in the DNC. Media from around the world were here before and after the event. In addition, much of ESPN's college broadcast are out of Charlotte, the SEC Network is based in Charlotte as are all NASCAR media operations.

Vacationers.....Charleston. It has the beach and is marketed as a vacation destination.

Magazines like to publish lists which get the locals excited but it is driven by many factors not related to core data. Besides, magazine subscriptions are not representative of the population.
I checked 2012 data it said 14m.
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Old 05-27-2014, 06:58 PM
 
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I checked 2012 data it said 14m.
It will vary.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:20 PM
 
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How.... what does Charlotte even have?

According to Business Insider Charleston is ranked 15th and Charlotte wasn't ranked
TripAdvisor Travelers' Choice Winners - Business Insider
Maybe he means "visitors" vs "tourists". With all the conventions, ball games, and car races, and business conferences, Im sure the city does have a lot of visitors. But it isn't a "destination" city. Its a city you go to because something is happening there, but otherwise, you wouldn't go to that city. Charleston is a city you go to...because of the city itself.

Big difference.
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