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Old 01-05-2023, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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If you think this matters. Why does Greenville tend to get things first and is the only city in the state to have some of these things? Example, Greenville has the only Cheesecake Factory in SC. And it got things like Dave and Busters, Top Golf, etc first. In business we're more likely to use metro area when setting up shop. Based on your theory Greenville should be last in amenities. It isn't. I can argue that it's first.
Do you feel like counting Charleston and Greenville’s firsts and “onlies” and reporting back on the tally? I don’t.
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Old 01-05-2023, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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And do some national brands have a harder time breaking into some markets more than others? Why might that be?
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Old 01-05-2023, 11:47 AM
 
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I missed that. I have been waiting all this time. I don’t remember seeing it posted on City Data or elsewhere. I could have chilled in 2014, before I even moved here. Thanks.
Yes, urban area estimates are released between Census years, typically as part of the ACS stats I believe. I use censusreporter.org to get updated federal population statistical info.
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Old 01-05-2023, 12:10 PM
 
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And do some national brands have a harder time breaking into some markets more than others? Why might that be?
Yes. In addition to the obvious--the median levels of disposable income for "average" (or affluent, depending on the brand) households--when a smaller market's retail landscape and "favored quarters" are more dispersed and diffuse, "the right location" may not be as evident to potential newcomers to the market which might delay or prevent their entrance altogether.
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Old 01-05-2023, 03:50 PM
 
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There may be many factors. Cost of land, cost of labor, city regulations, expendable income, etc. Simple population may contribute as much as you think.
Oh, I know what they look for as we look at this and deal with different business people in real estate. It isn't urban area. We use MSA mostly. Sometimes CMSA.
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Old 01-05-2023, 03:52 PM
 
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Do you feel like counting Charleston and Greenville’s firsts and “onlies” and reporting back on the tally? I don’t.
I don't. But I know things tend to land in Greenville first. Even without tourism and a beach.
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Old 01-05-2023, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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I don't. But I know things tend to land in Greenville first. Even without tourism and a beach.
Strange. I subscribe to The Post and Courier, and that “first in South Carolina” phrase pops up a lot in the local business news section.
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Old 01-05-2023, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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Strange. I subscribe to The Post and Courier, and that “first in South Carolina” phrase pops up a lot in the local business news section.
At the same time, Charleston is known as a city with a prevalence of independent, unique stores, and those stores have to be good to cut the mustard here and to operate sustainably. Plus, North Charleston is a major pillar in the state’s retail industry as the top city in the state for retail sales.
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Old 01-05-2023, 09:25 PM
 
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At the same time, Charleston is known as a city with a prevalence of independent, unique stores, and those stores have to be good to cut the mustard here and to operate sustainably. Plus, North Charleston is a major pillar in the state’s retail industry as the top city in the state for retail sales.
I don't know of any people up here going down there to shop. I mean Haywood is the largest mall in the state. My ex lives down there. She feels shopping is better in Greenville. I think I liked you better as Columbiadata. You've become more uppity since you moved down there.
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Old 01-05-2023, 09:30 PM
 
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Strange. I subscribe to The Post and Courier, and that “first in South Carolina” phrase pops up a lot in the local business news section.
Like what? Maybe tourist type stores. But things like Top Golf, Dave and Busters, Cabelas, Cheesecake Factory landed in the Greenville area first. All without tourism and a beach.
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