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Can you share with us the evidence you are basing your guilty opinion on?
Circumstantial...like the stuff that the filmmakers decided to leave out of the documentary because it would hurt their agenda. He answers the door in nothing but a towel when the victim comes to his house. He called her twice and tried to use *69 to hide his phone number and then called her phone again 2 hours later and didn't try to hide his number to make it look like she never showed up and he was looking for her.
Circumstantial...like the stuff that the filmmakers decided to leave out of the documentary because it would hurt their agenda. He answers the door in nothing but a towel when the victim comes to his house. He called her twice and tried to use *69 to hide his phone number and then called her phone again 2 hours later and didn't try to hide his number to make it look like she never showed up and he was looking for her.
FYI, that is not evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, there is no proof the *67 calls came from Avery and the towel incident is hearsay. Got any real evidence?
The *67 calls could have been the Manitowoc crooked cops. I truly believe they were corrupt including Sandra Morris' husband that was a Manitowoc Deputy. Sandra Morris was a cousin of Steve that told lies about Steve and just caused trouble for him.
Did you watch it? I agree the guy was not a saint and the cat incident makes me sick but he would have to be totally stupid to leave the Teresa’s car sitting there and not crush it.
Steve Avery has an estimated IQ of 70, so yes... He would be a total idiot, actually.
Brandon Dassey also made a statement to the police that Steve disconnected the battery of the RAV4 which is consistent with the forensic evidence that his DNA was found on the hood of the vehicle. This was also not mentioned in the documentary along with other incriminating evidence that would make him seem guilty to most people.
The *67 calls could have been the Manitowoc crooked cops. I truly believe they were corrupt including Sandra Morris' husband that was a Manitowoc Deputy. Sandra Morris was a cousin of Steve that told lies about Steve and just caused trouble for him.
How could the cops know to call Teresa cell phone??? She wasn't even missing at that point???Really there a good points to argue on the evidence in this case...but when you try to explain ALL evidence away it just makes you seem way too partisan...
How could the cops know to call Teresa cell phone??? She wasn't even missing at that point???Really there a good points to argue on the evidence in this case...but when you try to explain ALL evidence away it just makes you seem way too partisan...
I don't see how a phone call to Teresa makes Steve Avery guilty of murder.
I do agree with your basic point, that you can't explain all evidence away. But the story they coerced out of Brandan was that from 3:45 until 11 Teresa was in the trailer chained to the bed and being murdered. That story is obviously false. There was no blood evidence left in the trailer, not on the sheets, floor, wall, nowhere, after a supposed stabbing and shooting. In addition, what about the phone call from Steve Avery's fiance at 5:15? There was obviously nothing going on at that point. I don't see how a phone call before the fact trumps all of that.
I think it is a valid point that we can't see all of the evidence that the jury saw, but the evidence we do see does not point to the guilt of Steven Avery, in my opinion. He is a suspect, without a doubt, but his first experience in the sexual assault case shows that you have to be very careful, even when the evidence seems to add up.
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Yet he was smart enough to get rid of all the DNA evidence in the garage where they say he shot her?
Which was probably coerced just like all his other statements.
These confessions are the most painful part of the series for me to watch. I can't believe that this type of interrogation is legal, but more than that, I don't see how any juror could watch those confessions and believe a word of them, especially when the physical evidence doesn't match up. How do you get around the fact that no blood was found in the trailer? And yet the confession is accepted at face value, when you can look for yourself and see that it was invented by investigators and put in the mouth of a very low functioning human being. The worst confession was the one that he made to the lawyer's assistant, where he tried to tell the truth and was browbeaten into putting a story on paper that would be useful to the district attorney in the Steven Avery case.
Because they were responsible for her death or pinning someone elses murder on Avery. But thats too far fetched, huh?
That doesn't explain anyhing...how did the cops even know about Teresa until she was reported missing??? Are you saying the cops killed her??? Just got lucky that Avery was the last person to see her alive???
Steven Avery is either a total idiot who didn't use the car crusher (though he lived on that salvage lot and that was an ordinary way to get rid of cars that it is tough to believe that wasn't his first though), but then he is also this criminal mastermind who the prosecution claims had the ability to commit a highly violent crime in his trailer/garage and leave absolutely no blood. (despite the fact that the place wasn't even clean, no less)
I'm not saying he is innocent, but that I don't feel the prosecution proved anything without a reasonable doubt.
I guess if I had to say who I think did it:
1.) 55 % - Scott Tudyk/Bobby Dassey
2.) 25 % - Teresa's brother/ex boyfriend/roommate (something about the three of those together does not add up)
3.) 20 % - Steven Avery
0% - Brendan Avery.
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Really there a good points to argue on the evidence in this case...but when you try to explain ALL evidence away it just makes you seem way too partisan...
