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the UK is the union of England, Scotland, Wales and NORTHERN IRELAND, and until that changes all areas have a part to play, we cannot leave NI out of the equation that would be unfair and undemocratic.
personally I don't care what happens in NI, I have never been there and never will and I live so far away that whatever happens there it has no effect on my life, if the northern Irish wanted to amalgamate with the rest of Ireland i'd wish them good luck and goodbye.
the EU are using NI as a stick to beat the UK with.
the UK is the union of England, Scotland, Wales and NORTHERN IRELAND, and until that changes all areas have a part to play, we cannot leave NI out of the equation that would be unfair and undemocratic.
personally I don't care what happens in NI, I have never been there and never will and I live so far away that whatever happens there it has no effect on my life, if the northern Irish wanted to amalgamate with the rest of Ireland i'd wish them good luck and goodbye.
the EU are using NI as a stick to beat the UK with.
No they are not, reality is hitting the UK in the face via northern Ireland, was inevitable eventually, too many brits are horribly ignorant of their own history
Even you want your cake, you want to include Northern Ireland in every transition out of the EU yet don't want any inconvenient changes, what's the point of the EU having frontiers?
I'm not mad about Leo Varadkar but your language about Ireland "stabbing you in the back" is crude tabloid style rubbish, we owe you nothing, we face great consequence from your decision and must safeguard our interests, we have neither an interest in or obligation to lay down in front of the bus in order to protect Britain.
When I read those sentiments, I can only conclude that you " just don't get it"
Ireland is an independent country with its own foreign policy goals, Britain has no right to bend it to its desired will.
If anything it is you who stabbed us in the back, by voting brexit, you put in jeprody the fragile peace process and not an apparent whit of concern either
I get it all right. I said back stabbing Irish politicians, and I meant it. Maybe you don't get just how important England is to your imports and exports. Maybe you ought to remember who lent you £5 billion after the 'Celtic Tiger' hit the buffers. Keep ass licking the EU, and back stabbing us.......you may come to regret it in time. I hope British, especially English politicians have long memories when this is all over.
The fragile peace process, and not a whit of apparent concern? So we don't try to get out of the EU just in case the Irish start killing each other again? Or do you want to talk about what happened in Ireland hundreds of years ago, to try and guilt trip the English? It doesn't wash with me.
well you cant call Mrs May a bully, compared to the EU she is a ***** cat and easily manipulated, which is the problem. I wish we still had Mrs T "u turn if you want to, this lady is not for turning" she would have told the EU where to go.
I get it all right. I said back stabbing Irish politicians, and I meant it. Maybe you don't get just how important England is to your imports and exports. Maybe you ought to remember who lent you £5 billion after the 'Celtic Tiger' hit the buffers. Keep ass licking the EU, and back stabbing us.......you may come to regret it in time. I hope British, especially English politicians have long memories when this is all over.
The fragile peace process, and not a whit of apparent concern? So we don't try to get out of the EU just in case the Irish start killing each other again? Or do you want to talk about what happened in Ireland hundreds of years ago, to try and guilt trip the English? It doesn't wash with me.
Nothing against you personally Bob........
I never take anything personally online
The British government rightfully made a commercial decision in 2010 when they contributed to the bailout, they had nothing to gain from an important trading partner entering a chronic downturn, the loan of course came with conditions. From reading some pieces, you would think only the UK dug their hands in their pockets
[quote=English Dave;54190759]Paul, you can't say p ussy cat........ Don't know why.........[/QU
you cant say p ussy cat and you cant say s hit city either, don't know why, don't have this problem on my other forums.
well you cant call Mrs May a bully, compared to the EU she is a ***** cat and easily manipulated, which is the problem. I wish we still had Mrs T "u turn if you want to, this lady is not for turning" she would have told the EU where to go.
Yeah no doubt thatcher would have deployed her inimitable nineteenth century "John bull" style.
Wouldn't change all that much but would satisfy the murdoch press
Thatcher didn't like referendums too much
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