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The EU have designed and advertised an agreement that suits them, it's interesting that for months it's been said the hard Irish birder is Britains fault, then just a couple of weeks ago Leo Varadkar admitted the Irish Republic would need to implement that border (which flies in the face of being the UKs fault).
Given that any trade agreement will need at least decade to negotiate and ratify, how critical do you think that, that deal will be? After a decade, the UK will have learned to survive on WTO rules with the EU, or have alternative agreements sourcing imports from non-EU nations. So at that time if the EU want to get shirty, it's not going to be a huge loss.
I don't understand how that is difficult to grasp.
The UK are pulling the rug-out and changing their Customs and Regulatory legal framework by exiting from the EU. It was within that EU customs legal framework where that border could be pretty non-existant and open.
You'll also have to stand up border infastructure on your side.
I understand people are in denial about that, but it's true.
160+ members of the WTO are going to complain loudly when unchecked and untarriffed goods traverse across that frontier from Ireland into the UK.
I don't understand how that is difficult to grasp.
The UK are pulling the rug-out and changing their Customs and Regulatory legal framework by exiting from the EU. It was within that EU customs legal framework where that border could be pretty non-existant and open.
You'll also have to stand up border infastructure on your side.
I understand people are in denial about that, but it's true. 160+ members of the WTO are going to complain loudly when unchecked and untarriffed goods traverse across that frontier from Ireland into the UK.
I think foreign companies would be delighted if their exports entered the U.K. tariff free. It would make their products more competitive in the British market.
I think foreign companies would be delighted if their exports entered the U.K. tariff free. It would make their products more competitive in the British market.
Sorry but that's not the way world trade works.
If Irish apples are entering the UK tariff free while Canadian ones don't, Canada will complain and those complaints will be upheld.
You can't allow one countries goods to enter at an advantage over another under most favoured nation rules at WTO.
If you are placing a 5% tariff on apples, then that tariff applies to all countries apples.
Or maybe you mean, all 160+ member countries of the WTO will be allowed sell their products into the UK tariff free?
That strikes me as highly, highly unlikely as it would just destroy UK businesses and farmers.
Indeed.
Scottish independence is so far off the back burner it's returned to the coal shed.
There's only one game in town now and talk of Scottish independence or Irish unity is wishful thinking.
Nicola Sturgeon has never been more irrelevant ,particularly as the SNP's record in government is shocking.
Imagine how they'd cope without a massive annual bung from England.
Or maybe you mean, all 160+ member countries of the WTO will be allowed sell their products into the UK tariff free?
That strikes me as highly, highly unlikely as it would just destroy UK businesses and farmers.
I was responding to to your premise “160+ members of the WTO are going to complain loudly when unchecked and untarriffed goods traverse across that frontier from Ireland into the UK.”
If products are unchecked, country of origin won’t be known and tariffs can’t be levied.
By the way, have you forgotten this temporary plan...
No tuition fees, no prescription charges, free care for the elderly, free hospital parking, frozen council tax.
I take it the massive bung you mean is Barnett, which is a partial refund to Scotland of taxes raised in Scotland but paid directly to the treasury.
The Block "Grant" is a carefully chosen misnomer to fool the gullible.
Scottish education is in crisis with the number of children from deprived areas going to university falling - the only part of the Union where this is happening.
Free tuition has been funded by cutting student grants meaning Scotland is by far the worst country in the UK to be a disadvantaged student and the poorest students graduate with the most debt.
In primary and secondary schools standards in reading,writing and numeracy have been falling since 2011 with poorer kids once again the worst off.
In the NHS waiting times are far longer than in England and conditions in the area of mental health are also much worse.
Scotland under the SNP is not a good place in which to be young, poor or ill.
Freedom indeed.
You'll also have to stand up border infastructure on your side.
I understand people are in denial about that, but it's true.
160+ members of the WTO are going to complain loudly when unchecked and untarriffed goods traverse across that frontier from Ireland into the UK.
The point I'm making is Varadkar was touting it was all on the UK, and nothing to do with ireland.
What is hard to understand about the Irish border, is that it's been predominantly unregulated and open for the entire existence of the Irish Republic. Even before either the UK or RoI were in Europe? Yet somehow it's impossible to do now, because.... UK.
Scottish education is in crisis with the number of children from deprived areas going to university falling - the only part of the Union where this is happening.
Free tuition has been funded by cutting student grants meaning Scotland is by far the worst country in the UK to be a disadvantaged student and the poorest students graduate with the most debt.
In primary and secondary schools standards in reading,writing and numeracy have been falling since 2011 with poorer kids once again the worst off.
In the NHS waiting times are far longer than in England and conditions in the area of mental health are also much worse.
Scotland under the SNP is not a good place in which to be young, poor or ill.
Freedom indeed.
The point I'm making is Varadkar was touting it was all on the UK, and nothing to do with ireland.
What is hard to understand about the Irish border, is that it's been predominantly unregulated and open for the entire existence of the Irish Republic. Even before either the UK or RoI were in Europe? Yet somehow it's impossible to do now, because.... UK.
I call BS
Nothing hard to understand. Ireland being part of EU, not always the case of course but is now and has been for sometime. Hence EU regulations apply meaning no free border access to goods or people as stands. No reason on earth why UK should consider any special treatment. Cake and eat it or what? Further examples if any needed, of the lack of thought into the consequences of Brexit would likely result in a poorly designed exit strategy that wasn't supposed to happen or at least not an original intent in the first place.
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