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View Poll Results: Will the UK disintegrate?
Yes 158 33.47%
No 314 66.53%
Voters: 472. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-24-2019, 03:04 AM
 
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On the other hand the accounts of my HOA in the States were always audited.
Ah, that old chestnut. A lie doesn't become true just because tabloid newspapers repeat it often enough. Just another example of the media poisoning the well life their bendy banana stories, the gullible Brexiteer public laps it up though.

https://fullfact.org/europe/did-audi...ign-eu-budget/

The qualifications on the accounts are no different than you find regularly on the accounts of the UK government departments like the DWP, Defra and Mod, except those departments spend far more of UK taxpayers money than the EU does.
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Old 12-24-2019, 04:38 AM
 
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I guess the elites know best.
Well they know how to manipulate the clueless, thus allowing little to change in the scheme of things.
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Old 12-24-2019, 04:44 AM
 
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Isn't that what the referendum was all about ?
Voters were asked their personal preference based on ideology and a clear majority chose Brexit.
You lost. Get over it. Move on.
No-one likes a poor loser.
It's just not British.
Well no the nation lost. Perhaps The Union as well. Time will tell on the latter. Those that voted were clueless on the look and shape of the outcome they voted for. It was a vote based on a four word slogan. No way to run a country. Let alone a union. Sad thing being, it is unlikely many will move on for a considerable time, nor the preferred direction with vote as stands. Things are considerably more complicated than you and many Brexiteers appear to imagine it.
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Old 12-24-2019, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Malaga Spain & Lady Lake, Florida
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It is very complicated indeed and I never thought for a minute it would go this far.

I expected common sense to come into play and stop the madness but there you go....


Boris was never on the side of Brexit and only pushed for it believing it was his route to being PM , It'll be interesting now to see if he softens his stance having won his majority and the UK ends up with a soft Brexit something along the lines of the Norwegian arrangement.

The alternative will be a hard Brexit that remains ridiculously dangerous.

He looks up to Churchill but could go down in history for very different reasons, as the last Prime minister of the United Kingdom which would be incredibly sad.
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Old 12-24-2019, 05:51 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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what is it with Remainers, they seem incapable of accepting the result of any vote.
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Old 12-24-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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You didn't accept the result of the 1975 referendum result.
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Old 12-24-2019, 06:00 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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You didn't accept the result of the 1975 referendum result.
yes I did.
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Old 12-24-2019, 06:01 AM
 
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So you opposed holding a second referendum in 2016 to overturn it?
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Old 12-24-2019, 06:16 AM
 
Location: rural south west UK
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So you opposed holding a second referendum in 2016 to overturn it?
NO.
I voted in 1975 to stay in "The Common Market".
I voted in 2016 to leave "The European Union".
2 different votes.
I had no vote in joining a political union.
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Old 12-24-2019, 06:43 AM
 
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It was already a political union at that point, and the Treaty of Rome that the UK signed up to specifically states that it is an 'ever closer union' that will deepen integration over time.

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