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Old 04-27-2011, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Yorkshire, England
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I don't think they would have any chance at all. The very brief summer is just too cold, and the rest of the year wouldn't see any movement at all. This place has the same climate as Campbell island.
Yeah I would have to see pictures of palms on the Faroes to believe it. If they can survive there then they would also be able to survive in the more southerly, milder, sunnier Shetlands, and I've never heard of that ever happening.
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Old 04-27-2011, 06:51 PM
 
Location: In transition
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Admittedly, I don't have any evidence that a Chilean Wine Palm would survive on the Faroes. It was mere conjecture on my part based on the fact that it never gets very cold in the Faroes and the Chilean Wine Palm also likes cool summers. However, there is evidence of Windmill palms growing on the Faroes:

Hardy palms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It says " Trachycarpus fortunei is also being grown experimentally in Tórshavn on the Faroe Islands (62°N), with young plants growing well so far (Højgaard et al., 1989)."

Young plants aren't nearly as hardy as mature plants, so I think they would be fine.

Also, palm trees can be grown in several areas of Scandinavia. In fact, as I posted above, there is an entire website devoted to the cultivation of palm trees in Scandinavia.

Scanpalm - Palms in Scandinavia (http://www.scanpalm.no/english.html - broken link)


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Old 05-27-2012, 02:02 PM
 
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I live in Molino,Florida and I am so sick of all the palms they are planting every where up here. If I wanted to live on the beach I would have moved to the beach. They are cutting down huge shade trees to plant short beachy pines so when you cross over from Alabama you know you are in Florida. And don't let anyone tell you they are slow growers. They are sprouting and growing like weeds in my yard.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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If they can be grown in these places then it shouldn't give a false look on the climate.

Myself I don't care as much about palm trees. I like other tropical plants. Palm trees also give no shade :P
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Broward County, FL
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Palm trees are so overrated, I honestly don't see the obsession or why people would want to plant them in continental climates where they are going to wind up dead or ugly-looking anyway (unless you go to extreme measures to protect them). This is coming from a south FL resident of 14 years so I guess I'm just tired of seeing them everyday lol
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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If they can be grown in these places then it shouldn't give a false look on the climate.

Myself I don't care as much about palm trees. I like other tropical plants. Palm trees also give no shade :P
Young CIDPs provide a lot of shade. too much even. I sometimes see them getting cut down for that very reason.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Melbourne AUS
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I don't understand this fetish of trying to grow palms in crap climates like Vancouver, England, Scandinavia etc.

Palm trees aren't going to improve the unlivable climate and perceptions of others of such places, and well if it was me, I couldn't enjoy palm trees if I lived in a climate not worthy of them to the same level as if I was in a good climate.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I don't understand this fetish of trying to grow palms in crap climates like Vancouver, England, Scandinavia etc.

Palm trees aren't going to improve the unlivable climate and perceptions of others of such places, and well if it was me, I couldn't enjoy palm trees if I lived in a climate not worthy of them to the same level as if I was in a good climate.
I have seen the same said of Melbourne, from Queenslanders on different forums. Although Melbourne is in a different league from those other places mentioned.

If it can grow, grow it. I don't bother with any plants that need protecting though.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Buxton, England
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Seeing the palm trees lining the promenade of southern English seaside resorts always seemed normal to me. They are quite happy growing there. And these aren't any miniature palms either. Proper 30ft tall examples.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I don't understand this fetish of trying to grow palms in crap climates like Vancouver, England, Scandinavia etc.

Palm trees aren't going to improve the unlivable climate and perceptions of others of such places, and well if it was me, I couldn't enjoy palm trees if I lived in a climate not worthy of them to the same level as if I was in a good climate.
Well, the climates of Vancouver and England are not unlivable..

And a lot of palms that are grown in places like Melbourne and Miami are definitely not native to these places. Before the palm was introduced to Florida it was just swampy with trees more similar to Alabama and Louisiana.

As Joe says, if it can grow, so what? And most people just grow these plants/trees as a hobby, not because they want to try and make their oceanic climates look tropical. They do make towns look more attractive though.
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