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Old 12-09-2011, 10:24 AM
 
Location: New York
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That's right, subtropical doesn't fit NYC at all !
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NYC is very similar to cities in Southern Ontario Canada, perhaps a few degrees warmer. If NYC was subtropical, perhaps some cities in Southern Ontario was also subtropical, say Pelee island in lake Erie or even Point Pelee, a small town at the Southern most tip of Canada.
Toronto's March is NYC's January, NYC averages about 10°F warmer than Toronto in January. Toronto is in hardiness zone 5 while NYC is in hardiness zone 7/8 which does allow for some "subtropical" vegetation (palm trees included). They do have things in common but I wouldn't call them very similar lol.

The climate classifications are just too broad in my opinion, I wouldn't change any city's current classification, I'd just add more categories. NYC is neither continental or subtropical, but I wouldn't throw it in with the deathly cold cities just because it snows in the winter.
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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NYC winters are much warmer and much less snowy then southern Ontario cities like Toronto and London.
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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London Ontario has much more snow than Toronto because of the location of London.

London is South of lake Huron and Georgian Bay and is wide open. The cold air travels South and picks up moisture from lake Huron & Georgian Bay and turns the moisture into snow, when the snow is heavy enough it will dump it to area South of it. In other word London has a lot of lake effect snow, the section of hwy 401 between Kitchener and Windsor Ontario is terrible.

This is also similar to regions South of lakes Erie & Ontario (from Cleveland Ohio to Erie to Buffalo; Then upper state NY).

I don't know how much snow NYC has but Toronto has much less snow than London Ontario and areas North of hwy 7. In fact Toronto is South of the snow belt and sometimes she doesn't even have white Xmas. She did have white Xmas 20 years ago but eventually we don't see white Xmas that often any more, global warming ?
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:27 AM
 
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Toronto's Jan high/low is -1C/-7C or 29F/19F
NYC's Jan high/low is 3.3C/-3.2 or 38F/26.2F

Differences between NYC & Toronto high/low is 4.3C/3.8C or 9F/7.2F
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Old 12-09-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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Yes, I just compared Toronto & NYC, Toronto's March is similar to NYC's Jan. So NYC is pretty warm then, wow !
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Victoria,BC
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I heard that pelee island in ontario is considered subtropical
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Laurentia
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I heard that pelee island in ontario is considered subtropical
Although it may have mild Winters by Canadian standards, and certainly has hot Summers (especially at night), the statistics here portray an average daily mean of 24.2F for the coldest month, below the minimum subtropical threshold of 26.6 F. The July average of 77F makes it a Dfa climate. I will say, however, that Summer nights that warm are more often seen in subtropical climates than continental ones; but it's the Winters that make the difference between Cfa (subtropical) and Dfa (continental).
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Victoria,BC
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yeah in july the average high temp is 29.5 and the low is 20.5 but in jan its -7 as a low and 0 as a high
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Victoria,BC
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i also think that the koppen classifcation csb should be a total different climate than subtropical cause you have places like santa monica and san francisco considered to be the same as victoria bc and seattle.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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yeah in july the average high temp is 29.5 and the low is 20.5 but in jan its -7 as a low and 0 as a high
Those are nice summer temps. Is that the warmest location in a Canadian summer
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