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"Doesn't look bad"? Did you see the forecast for next week? Highs around 10 C (even lower on one day!) and lows not much above freezing coupled with heavy rain (and strong winds on some days). This is not "early spring", this forecast is for the 4th - 9th October -- mid-spring, during which the highs should be in the mid-to-high teens.
Yes, but it's not abnormal for others' mid-spring.
Hmm, that's strange since I've always thought "spring-like" temperatures meant 70s F. My favourite climates tend to be described as "eternal spring" for their year-round 70s F average highs.
I suspect that in a typical American city (somewhere near the population centroid like NYC, Philadelphia, St. Louis, etc.) the average highs in mid-spring would be in the high 60s F.
Hmm, that's strange since I've always thought "spring-like" temperatures meant 70s F. My favourite climates tend to be described as "eternal spring" for their year-round 70s F average highs.
I suspect that in a typical American city (somewhere near the population centroid like NYC, Philadelphia, St. Louis, etc.) the average highs in mid-spring would be in the high 60s F.
What you consider "mid spring" (Early October) would be early April here, and in those cities during that time of year average highs are between 55 and 60F, not upper 60s. You would need to go to Alabama or Georgia to find highs in the upper 60s that time of year.
And I don't know anyone who considers early April "mid spring", almost everyone I know considers it early spring. You know for a city located at 43S, you have a really mild climate. Milwaukee, Wisconsin is at the same latitude and in early April your forecast would be a nice one for them, as a matter of fact they can still get big snowstorms that time of year. Consider yourself fortunate.
And I don't understand why you're expecting BBQ weather at 43S, at a coastal location, in early spring , that's like me expecting sweater weather in Florida in early October, of course i'd be dissapointed 95% of the time.
I don't get why you complain so much, and also why you're putting your spring forecast on an Autumn thread , you seem to expect people to feel bad for you when in reality climates at your same latitude in the northern hemisphere are a lot colder in the winter and much higher temperature swings, trust me you're not going to get any sympathy at all from posters here with your "horrible" forecasts, when they're really not that bad.
Hmm, that's strange since I've always thought "spring-like" temperatures meant 70s F. My favourite climates tend to be described as "eternal spring" for their year-round 70s F average highs.
I suspect that in a typical American city (somewhere near the population centroid like NYC, Philadelphia, St. Louis, etc.) the average highs in mid-spring would be in the high 60s F.
Well, right after the equinox would still be considered early spring here. I'd say mid April is the start of early spring, as one sees a lot more buds (and growth bigger than buds) and flowers. The first day that has average highs in the 70s in NYC is May 10. April 1st has an average high of 56.
Where I live, April 8 is the first day that has a low above 32°F, so perhaps that's a good transition between early and mid spring.
You think autumn in England and you think rain and abundant water, right? There's no sign of drought here that I've noticed though it has been dry but 100 miles north a Roman-era spring has dried up for the first time in 35 years: BBC News - Roman spring stops flowing in a Lincolnshire village
You think autumn in England and you think rain and abundant water, right? There's no sign of drought here that I've noticed though it has been dry but 100 miles north a Roman-era spring has dried up for the first time in 35 years: BBC News - Roman spring stops flowing in a Lincolnshire village
No worries about drought here. Suppose that's a plus. Early autumn is supposed to be the sunniest time of year, though not really particularly dry.
You think autumn in England and you think rain and abundant water, right? There's no sign of drought here that I've noticed though it has been dry but 100 miles north a Roman-era spring has dried up for the first time in 35 years: BBC News - Roman spring stops flowing in a Lincolnshire village
There's a serious lack of rainfall here. October is looking very dry, and unless November and December are extraordinarily wet, we will not exceed 500 mm's (19.6 in) for the entire year, which would make us, for 2011 at least, semi-arid.
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What causes these crazy diurnal swings in a maritime climate?
I'm guessing that it's because it's easy to get moderate foehn winds in much of NZ. There are major foehn winds like the norwester, which can really push the temps up, but also lesser winds as well. As mountains form the backbone of NZ (South Island more so), it's easy to be on the lee side of the mountains relative to the wind direction, and get moderate foehn effect winds. That is certainly the case here.
I've heard a lot of people from colder climates (Europe, US) talk about/complain how quickly the temps drop here in the late afternoon during winter, although I can't see why it would be much different in those places (as long as they didn't have cloudy winters)
Most people I know just aren't aware that we sometimes get quite large diurnal swings given our climate. Two days ago was a classic example. The day started out at 0.7C/33F and reached 19.6C/70F at about 2pm and a guy at work said that the day hadn't warmed up much, although those pesky seabreezes can make it feel like that sometimes.
I'm guessing that it's because it's easy to get moderate foehn winds in much of NZ. There are major foehn winds like the norwester, which can really push the temps up, but also lesser winds as well. As mountains form the backbone of NZ (South Island more so), it's easy to be on the lee side of the mountains relative to the wind direction, and get moderate foehn effect winds. That is certainly the case here.
I've heard a lot of people from colder climates (Europe, US) talk about/complain how quickly the temps drop here in the late afternoon during winter, although I can't see why it would be much different in those places (as long as they didn't have cloudy winters)
Most people I know just aren't aware that we sometimes get quite large diurnal swings given our climate. Two days ago was a classic example. The day started out at 0.7C/33F and reached 19.6C/70F at about 2pm and a guy at work said that the day hadn't warmed up much, although those pesky seabreezes can make it feel like that sometimes.
The low temperature here was 11.0C but warmed up to 28.3C. That's a pretty large diurnal range if you ask me.
What you consider "mid spring" (Early October) would be early April here, and in those cities during that time of year average highs are between 55 and 60F, not upper 60s. You would need to go to Alabama or Georgia to find highs in the upper 60s that time of year.
And I don't know anyone who considers early April "mid spring", almost everyone I know considers it early spring. You know for a city located at 43S, you have a really mild climate. Milwaukee, Wisconsin is at the same latitude and in early April your forecast would be a nice one for them, as a matter of fact they can still get big snowstorms that time of year. Consider yourself fortunate.
And I don't understand why you're expecting BBQ weather at 43S, at a coastal location, in early spring , that's like me expecting sweater weather in Florida in early October, of course i'd be dissapointed 95% of the time.
I don't get why you complain so much, and also why you're putting your spring forecast on an Autumn thread , you seem to expect people to feel bad for you when in reality climates at your same latitude in the northern hemisphere are a lot colder in the winter and much higher temperature swings, trust me you're not going to get any sympathy at all from posters here with your "horrible" forecasts, when they're really not that bad.
Definitely agree with this. You know Christchurch's record low is only -7C (19F). Not many places in the northern hemisphere at 43N can claim such a high record low not to mention early springs.
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, that's like me expecting sweater weather in Florida in early October, of course i'd be dissapointed 95% of the time.
, you seem to expect people to feel bad for you when in reality climates at your same latitude in the northern hemisphere are a lot colder in the winter and much higher temperature swings, trust me you're not going to get any sympathy at all from posters here with your "horrible" forecasts, when they're really not that bad.
