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View Poll Results: When does spring start?
1st March 28 47.46%
21st March 6 10.17%
20th March 7 11.86%
1st Febuary 2 3.39%
1st April 7 11.86%
Don't have spring in this climate 5 8.47%
Don't really care! 4 6.78%
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK/Swanage, UK
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^^Spring is Sep for southern hemisphere.
That is very true! LOL
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Due to the Gulf of Finland which is (normally) frozen and the normal pattern of the Jet Stream spring doesn't start here before around 20 March. Today the sun is as high as at 13 October, at 22 degrees, which is very low, you barely feel any warming effect. For example in Boston the angle is 24 degrees at winter solstice. We have to go to 23 March to even get the same sun angle London has today.

Sun angle is of course not everything, depends so much on the weather patterns, and especially on that awful Siberian high, but on average until 15 March it's full winter over here. And I hate it.
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Old 03-01-2015, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Paris, ÃŽle-de-France, France
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Due to the Gulf of Finland which is (normally) frozen and the normal pattern of the Jet Stream spring doesn't start here before around 20 March. Today the sun is as high as at 13 October, at 22 degrees, which is very low, you barely feel any warming effect. For example in Boston the angle is 24 degrees at winter solstice. We have to go to 23 March to even get the same sun angle London has today.

Sun angle is of course not everything, depends so much on the weather patterns, and especially on that awful Siberian high, but on average until 15 March it's full winter over here. And I hate it.
That's really pathetic, 47.4° at solar noon time here.
Actually I love the warmth of the sun during the early of Spring but the only thing that bugs me about the sunny weather is UV Index!
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK/Swanage, UK
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Due to the Gulf of Finland which is (normally) frozen and the normal pattern of the Jet Stream spring doesn't start here before around 20 March. Today the sun is as high as at 13 October, at 22 degrees, which is very low, you barely feel any warming effect. For example in Boston the angle is 24 degrees at winter solstice. We have to go to 23 March to even get the same sun angle London has today.

Sun angle is of course not everything, depends so much on the weather patterns, and especially on that awful Siberian high, but on average until 15 March it's full winter over here. And I hate it.
Haha, here in Pompey, the highest sun angle is 31.6 degrees... Your sun angle now is late January here! Haha
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Old 03-01-2015, 08:17 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Due to the Gulf of Finland which is (normally) frozen and the normal pattern of the Jet Stream spring doesn't start here before around 20 March. Today the sun is as high as at 13 October, at 22 degrees, which is very low, you barely feel any warming effect. For example in Boston the angle is 24 degrees at winter solstice. We have to go to 23 March to even get the same sun angle London has today.

Sun angle is of course not everything, depends so much on the weather patterns, and especially on that awful Siberian high, but on average until 15 March it's full winter over here. And I hate it.
Yet your daylight is almost as long as ours. The sun angle is creating glare issues on the snow these days here. Doesn't sound fun, but it'd be interesting to experience your sun angle. Closest I've experienced was southern Scotland in late July. March or September would be feel weird as the daylength is close to us but the sun wouldn't go up much.

I haven't been below 37° (California, southern Spain) in almost ten years, either.
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Old 03-01-2015, 09:56 AM
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Location: Ontario
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Looking out my window it doesn't look much like spring, LOL....more like mid winter.

With seasonal lag here, I'm leaning towards astronomical, march 21st
Though I chose "no spring", might not get spring this year
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:19 AM
 
Location: In transition
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March 1st is usually the start of spring here but this year some flowers were already starting to come out at the end of January due to the unusually mild conditions
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Singapore
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Spring started in December this year.
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Europe didn't have a single Siberian high affecting this winter, and the Jet was above Scandinavia for most of the season while it should be above Germany and Poland. The position MIGHT be due to the massive polar vortex in the W hem, but we don't know that. Or at least I don't know that.
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Old 03-01-2015, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Trondheim, Norway - 63 N
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Europe didn't have a single Siberian high affecting this winter, and the Jet was above Scandinavia for most of the season while it should be above Germany and Poland. The position MIGHT be due to the massive polar vortex in the W hem, but we don't know that. Or at least I don't know that.
The jet has been over S Scandinvia very often in winter the last decades.
Before 1998, autumn was wettest in Bergen and most of W Norway, often with September as wettest month (yellow locations in the map in the link has wettest month in autumn).
After 1998 the wettest month is in winter in much of W Norway incl Bergen (blue locations in the map, see link). Not quite there in Trondheim, but winter is very close to overtake autumn here now as wettest season.
September is now 11 % drier, even if precipitation has increased over the year.
Autumn weather has on average arrived later than before, summer lasts longer.

Inland, summer is wettest season (red locations), and precipitation in summer has increased inland.
Link (txt in Norwegian only).
Vinteren er den nye høsten - TV2.no
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