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Old 05-15-2017, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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You said it, not me.
Well, you posted several comments that were disbelieving about the diversity of cities in the western world outside the anglosphere, did you not?

 
Old 05-15-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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Well, you posted several comments that were disbelieving about the diversity of cities in the western world outside the anglosphere, did you not?
Nope, I've been a salesman for Anglophone diversity, but I've hardly disregarded the fact that there's diversity elsewhere.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I think more sad is that Anglo-Saxon cultures are so flooded with Anglo music, TV and literature that many think in them that no culture exist outside the Anglosphere.

What I think is a benefit of being in a small cultural sphere is that you HAVE to look for the outside world. A lot of English, French and German documentaries are broadcast on Finnish television, we watch TV series and films from England, the US, even Italy or Brazil! Therefore I think people in small cultural spheres have much better knowledge about the outside world.

I would say that US, Britain, Russia and China has the worst knowledge of the outside world among the general populace. And that is probably one reason behind Brexit as well.
I have a similar theory.


When you're living in a small cultural sphere in the western world, you initially go for the lowest hanging fruit possible. That's generally local stuff (in, say, Finnish) plus the globalized anglosphere stuff. After a while you get so used to consuming anglosphere stuff (which is from *another* culture and foreign even if it's omnipresent), that it's no big deal to branch out to stuff that's in other languages and of other origins.


In the anglosphere, the cultural sphere is such a huge steamroller that it basically squeezes out anything of any other origin. Unless the "machine" decides to let something different into the party. Think of Gangnam Style or the Macarena in music... But this only happens extremely rarely. More often than not the "machine" will seize upon the good foreign stuff, and reproduce it with its own label, and feed it to its masses. Instead of importing the original... which is often of better quality. But the masses aren't aware of this.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I have a similar theory.


When you're living in a small cultural sphere in the western world, you initially go for the lowest hanging fruit possible.
As someone who picks fruit for work, the bolded really gets my goat -always do tops first! -the bottoms ( so called low hanging fruit) are for topping up your bag.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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As someone who picks fruit for work, the bolded really gets my goat -always do tops first! -the bottoms ( so called low hanging fruit) are for topping up your bag.
Sorry about that, chief.


Seen any good foreign language movies lately?
 
Old 05-15-2017, 02:55 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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I have a similar theory.


When you're living in a small cultural sphere in the western world, you initially go for the lowest hanging fruit possible. That's generally local stuff (in, say, Finnish) plus the globalized anglosphere stuff. After a while you get so used to consuming anglosphere stuff (which is from *another* culture and foreign even if it's omnipresent), that it's no big deal to branch out to stuff that's in other languages and of other origins.


In the anglosphere, the cultural sphere is such a huge steamroller that it basically squeezes out anything of any other origin. Unless the "machine" decides to let something different into the party. Think of Gangnam Style or the Macarena in music... But this only happens extremely rarely. More often than not the "machine" will seize upon the good foreign stuff, and reproduce it with its own label, and feed it to its masses. Instead of importing the original... which is often of better quality. But the masses aren't aware of this.


Most of Europe isn't English speaking though.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Castlederp
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Most Europeans can speak English though. Go anywhere and most will understand you or at least be able to converse a little bit. Same can't be said for us (except I speak French and can understand some Italian/Spanish)
 
Old 05-15-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Most of Europe isn't English speaking though.
Hold the phone, Mabel!
 
Old 05-15-2017, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Sorry about that, chief.


Seen any good foreign language movies lately?
No worries.

No, but I haven't watched much lately, other than Guardians of the Galaxy II ,the other night. I love subtitled foreign movies though, and there's usually the choice of a 2-3 different ones most nights in town.

Just got given a series called The Bridge, to watch - from one of the Scandi countries, and all in subtitles. Don't know how I'll go though, as crime isn't really my thing. I've been assured it's worth watching though.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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Hold the phone, Mabel!
The point is obvious.. Mainland Europeans don't need to learn English. No country in Mainland Europe has English as its first language.
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