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Old 03-27-2017, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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So he says. The EU is a fascist economical system designed to drive down wages to benefit a tiny elite, and our Champagne Socialist government supports it with all guns blazing!

Everyone knows the metropolitan left and the liberals are essentially the same thing in most countries now. Corbyn's one mistake is actually wanting to stop wage-dumping that's why even The Guardian are after him, aside from that he'd be on their team too.
They're not doing a very good job then, only three countries in the EU have experienced wage decline since 2007. Note to self - must try harder.

Hey, maybe when Macron is elected he will bring over 400,000 Algerian a year.

 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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They're not doing a very good job then, only three countries in the EU have experienced wage decline since 2007. Note to self - must try harder.
Real numbers or adjusted for inflation?

There's no way purchasing power here has gone up since 2007. That would only be alternative facts. Poverty is way up.
 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Real numbers or adjusted for inflation?

There's no way purchasing power here has gone up since 2007. That would only be alternative facts. Poverty is way up.
Real wages, which are adjusted for inflation. In the UK they decreased by 10% since 2007, in Sweden they increased by 7%.

In France, real wages increased by 11% since 2007, so they're doing better than us in that regard.
 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:15 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Oh you'd vote for all eight parties in Sweden then?
lol, from my perspective it seems like there's not much difference between most European parties in practice.

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(except for me of course, I got charged with $40 for a mere minor check-up that I was sent to on recommendation two months back, so much for free health care. Of course it's all spent on... well... not natural born citizens that's for sure. Rather the EU and third-worlders.)
well if 75% of the population is natural-born citizens, wouldn't $30 of that $40 be for natural-born citizens?
 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:17 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Macron needs to lose, just like Trudeau needs to get wiped out major league big-time in 2019. So-called liberals are the worst traitors to their so-called titles by combining the worst aspects of the left with the worst of the right. Liberalism has been hijacked by insane people and needs to cease to exist. They've ruined every non-left government in this country for 40 years with their policies. The only positive role they ever can have is to hamper the vote for far-left parties in first past the post systems.
I'm suspicious of Macron given how much he praises finance. What's so bad about Trudeau? He's gotten overhyped but seems ok. Well, his pro-Castro comment was stupid. Harper was a nasty piece of work.
 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Finland
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lol, from my perspective it seems like there's not much difference between most European parties in practice.
If you're talking about abolishing the welfare state you can't win an election in Europe.
 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Foreignorland 58 N, 17 E.
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I'm suspicious of Macron given how much he praises finance. What's so bad about Trudeau? He's gotten overhyped but seems ok. Well, his pro-Castro comment was stupid.
The Castro comments + him being so overtly for immigration from a certain region and cultural paradigm of the world.

Also the fact his main election slogan was about weed. I mean come on? Talk about first world-problems. Also he didn't make his own success, without his dad he'd never been party leader. A complete joke of a prime minister and Canada can only hope he won't open the floodgates to the entirety of that part of the world like our leaders did. It's so frustrating to see other people not knowing the path they're going down. Harper estabilished a damn good immigration system and it was such a shame he lost, probably because of the TPP (which is a shameful thing to support). The right needs good and successful role models and he failed in that aspect.

However, politicians in this country could care less about role models. Our buffoon/clown-in-chief Mr champagne socialist PM came out after the Brexit referendum and said we needed the EU more than ever now.

Those comments came when we had just lost our sole ally outside of Scandinavia and now face perpetual German and French unchecked federalist rule.

Why is that so bad? Well first of all, Swedes don't speak either language (mein Deutsch ist ganz gut aber...) while the one country we wanted freedom of movement with from outside Scandinavia and share a linguistic and strong cultural bond with departed, yet our politicians still feel the UK-free EU is relevant when the fact is that once the UK leaves the European Union it becomes an illegitimate laughing stock. The second largest economy just went bye-bye but our champagne socialists will still enjoy the luxury meals in Brussels on taxpayer expense of course. Some are more equal than others. Hereditary Prime Ministers like Trudeau and our government are prime examples of that.

Talk to y'all tomorrow, nighty night
 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:29 PM
 
Location: United Kingdom
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Typical Owen, going completely off topic lol
Maybe, you could help since you live in a Northern Location. You should be well aware of how to capture the lights.
 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:29 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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They're not doing a very good job then, only three countries in the EU have experienced wage decline since 2007. Note to self - must try harder.
Only three?! Maybe a misleading stat if some countries have high unemployment so if unemployment goes up and the remaining jobs are slightly better paying, it looks like an improvement. US is just below 2007 levels. But US wages haven't increased that much in real dollars since the late 70s, maybe by 20% at most.
 
Old 03-27-2017, 05:31 PM
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The Castro comments + him being so overtly for immigration from a certain region and cultural paradigm of the world.

Also the fact his main election slogan was about weed. I mean come on? Talk about first world-problems. Also he didn't make his own success, without his dad he'd never been party leader. A complete joke of a prime minister and Canada can only hope he won't open the floodgates to the entirety of that part of the world like our leaders did. It's so frustrating to see other people not knowing the path they're going down. Harper estabilished a damn good immigration system and it was such a shame he lost, probably because of the TPP (which is a shameful thing to support). The right needs good and successful role models and he failed in that aspect.
Marijuana prohibition is moronic. Why do you focus so much immigration? Tradeau has let in some more refugees, true, but hasn't changed the immigration policy that much*. Harper had a terrible environmental record and would muzzle any government scientists that said anything that did fit the government agenda.

*At least his wikipedia page says nothing about immigration! Can't be that important, then.

Single men were blocked from entering as refugees, at least from Syria:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cana...lies-1.3330185
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