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Nah, I've been very specific and consistent w/regards to the climate effect on vegetation, and the indicated examples provided. You're just too busy nitpicking and going tit-for-tat over minor quibbles, that you miss the entire point all together.
That light freeze you get once a year in winter could be all that is stopping a full-blown evergreen paradise from coming forth (i.e. bit of hyperbole, but you get the point).
And that evergreen paradise you keep referencing stops at 26-27 degrees latitude in southeastern China and NE Argentina.
Do you think Shanghai is an evergreen subtropical paradise? Certainly doesn't look like one. Neither does Busan. Fujian can't even grow a decent coconut. Must be that Siberian High blocking all of the tropical breezes
And that evergreen paradise you keep referencing stops at 26-27 degrees latitude in southeastern China and NE Argentina.
No they don't, not even close. You definitely weren't paying attention if you're drawing that conclusion.
East Asia's impressive stability is better for growing laurophyll evergreens, compared to US locations with similar temperature profiles. And, as mentioned before, the evergreen climate in South America goes all the way down much of Argentina, in areas that are moist enough. Below is a location the same latitude as Washington DC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar_del_Plata#Climate
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Do you think Shanghai is an evergreen subtropical paradise? Certainly doesn't look like one. Neither does Busan.
Both can absolutely be more of one than many equivalent areas of the US, if not already so. Busan's record low at 35°N is even warmer than the coastal US South all the way down to Pensacola.
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Fujian can't even grow a decent coconut. Must be that Siberian High blocking all of the tropical breezes
At least Fujian can pull off banyan trees in areas with average highs barely above 60°F. Equivalent areas of the US are struggling with simple Washingtonia palms.
At least Fujian can pull off banyan trees in areas with average highs barely above 60°F. Equivalent areas of the US are struggling with simple Washingtonia palms.
Are you making things up again? Again jumping around with your inconsistent claims. You do realize the northernmost part of Fujian is south of the 28th parallel? The capital, Fuzhou, is a the same latitude as Ft. Lauderdale!
28 degrees latitude coastal Florida looks like a tropical paradise compared to cool and cloudy Fujian
No they don't, not even close. You definitely weren't paying attention if you're drawing that conclusion.
East Asia's impressive stability is better for growing laurophyll evergreens, compared to US locations with similar temperature profiles. And, as mentioned before, the evergreen climate in South America goes all the way down much of Argentina, in areas that are moist enough. Below is a location the same latitude as Washington DC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar_del_Plata#Climate
Where is the evergreen paradise around Shanghai or Mar del Plata?? They look nothing like the truly near-tropical evergreen paradise in Misiones or Guangdong.
"Laurophyll" diversity in Argentina peaks in Misiones (e.g. Plinia and Eugenia) and drops precipitously south of Corrientes. There is similar drop-off north of coastal Fujian.
Are you still talking about an evergreen broadleaf forest or an "evergreen climate"? Which one is it
Where is the evergreen paradise around Shanghai or Mar del Plata?? They look nothing like the truly near-tropical evergreen paradise in Misiones or Guangdong.
"Laurophyll" diversity in Argentina peaks in Misiones (e.g. Plinia and Eugenia) and drops precipitously south of Corrientes. There is similar drop-off north of coastal Fujian.
Are you still talking about an evergreen broadleaf forest or an "evergreen climate"? Which one is it
Shanghai is at the same latitude as Brunswick Ga or Baja California but it has a temp profile closer to Nashville, from some pics I've seen of the subtropical areas in China it doesn't look too different than what you'd see in like Atlanta.
Shanghai is at the same latitude as Brunswick Ga or Baja California but it has a temp profile closer to Nashville, from some pics I've seen of the subtropical areas in China it doesn't look too different than what you'd see in like Atlanta.
It's what is referred to as "extreme continentality," meaning China is prone to seeing stronger intrusions of colder air from Siberia and Mongolia at lower latitudes that aren't modified as quickly when they move over large snow covered areas.
It's what is referred to as "extreme continentality," meaning China is prone to seeing stronger intrusions of colder air from Siberia and Mongolia at lower latitudes that aren't modified as quickly when they move over large snow covered areas.
The US southeast is prone to even stronger intrusions of cold air than southeast China as evidenced by record minimums that are colder both in absolute terms and with respect to deviation from the mean.
The US southeast is prone to even stronger intrusions of cold air than southeast China as evidenced by record minimums that are colder both in absolute terms and with respect to deviation from the mean.
Depends on where though, right?
I was just looking at cities around the world on 36N and while Virginia Beach may not be considered subtropical by everyone here, it is pretty darn close if not. Quindao, China is not even considered subtropical by koppen and it's quite cold for a coastal city at 36N with a january mean of -0.2c
I was just looking at cities around the world on 36N and while Virginia Beach may not be considered subtropical by everyone here, it is pretty darn close if not. Quindao, China is not even considered subtropical by koppen and it's quite cold for a coastal city at 36N with a january mean of -0.2c
Yes, the averages in the US are warmer but the extremes are, well, more extreme. So "stronger intrusions of colder air" seems to apply more to the US than elsewhere.
FWIW, the extremes in the other direction, i.e. warmth, are greater in the US too: Virginia Beach has reached 29°C in January?!?
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Again jumping around with your inconsistent claims. You do realize the northernmost part of Fujian is south of the 28th parallel? The capital, Fuzhou, is a the same latitude as Ft. Lauderdale! 
, from some pics I've seen of the subtropical areas in China it doesn't look too different than what you'd see in like Atlanta.
