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It is too cold for any commercial oranges in Atlanta area, although the cold-hardy satsuma mandarin oranges grow in southern GA. They are supposedly viable to zone 8(b?) USDA
Unrelated to the tree but the 2019-20 winter and this past winter are around what's normal for Oakville, right? USDA zone 6a.
In Southern Ontario the zones don't quite line up with the US side of the border since Canadian zones are taking other things like precipitation, mean temperature, max winds, etc into account not just the annual low.
The average annual low at Oakville TWN is about -21C, which matches up with it being 6a approaching 6b on the hardiness map, https://www.plantmaps.com/interactiv...diness-map.php
But at Port Lambton, there's a pretty big mismatch, 7a on the Canadian side of the river, 5b on the US side...
In Southern Ontario the zones don't quite line up with the US side of the border since Canadian zones are taking other things like precipitation, mean temperature, max winds, etc into account not just the annual low.
The average annual low at Oakville TWN is about -21C, which matches up with it being 6a approaching 6b on the hardiness map, https://www.plantmaps.com/interactiv...diness-map.php
But at Port Lambton, there's a pretty big mismatch, 7a on the Canadian side of the river, 5b on the US side...
In Southern Ontario the zones don't quite line up with the US side of the border since Canadian zones are taking other things like precipitation, mean temperature, max winds, etc into account not just the annual low.
The average annual low at Oakville TWN is about -21C, which matches up with it being 6a approaching 6b on the hardiness map, https://www.plantmaps.com/interactiv...diness-map.php
But at Port Lambton, there's a pretty big mismatch, 7a on the Canadian side of the river, 5b on the US side...
Based off the map, the Oakville waterfront where this magnolia was located should be lower 6b, like -19.5C or -20.0C annual low.
Thanks for the Canadian hardiness zone heads up, I agree it is way better than the USDA one but I just used the USDA one because I am unfortunately not familiar with Canada and the US as a whole applied to the Canadian USDA system.
The toasty toasty weather for the Southeast is continuing and I'm loving it, Jacksonville's weather in particular is very notable, today and tomorrow will be 27C with 16-18C lows.
The reason that's so notable is because the first thing that immediately stood out to me when I saw the 1991-2020 Jacksonville climate box for the first time was the 26.9C normal January maximum, so boy is it great to see it be met as it happens, just like this time last winter.
38C wouldn't be impossible since DeFuniak Springs has seen 36C in January, and Fernandina Beach/Austin/San Antonio/College Station with similar averages to Tallahassee airport have gotten to 37-38C in February, but it shatters the previous record by 10C!
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The toasty toasty weather for the Southeast is continuing and I'm loving it, Jacksonville's weather in particular is very notable, today and tomorrow will be 27C with 16-18C lows.
The reason that's so notable is because the first thing that immediately stood out to me when I saw the 1991-2020 Jacksonville climate box for the first time was the 26.9C normal January maximum, so boy is it great to see it be met as it happens, just like this time last winter.
38C wouldn't be impossible since DeFuniak Springs has seen 36C in January, and Fernandina Beach/Austin/San Antonio/College Station with similar averages to Tallahassee airport have gotten to 37-38C in February, but it shatters the previous record by 10C!
Both the 38°C for Tallahassee and the 36°C for DeFuniak Springs are obviously errors.
YOU JUST CAN'T BEAT this January weather in the heart of the interpalm zone. Same highs and slightly lower lows than the tropical part of the state, but in this case it just gives the perfect shape to the day. It's like an attractive curvy day, but not an extreme overweight continental day (like a Tulsa day)
YOU JUST CAN'T BEAT this January weather in the heart of the interpalm zone. Same highs and slightly lower lows than the tropical part of the state, but in this case it just gives the perfect shape to the day. It's like an attractive curvy day, but not an extreme overweight continental day (like a Tulsa day)
Both the 38°C for Tallahassee and the 36°C for DeFuniak Springs are obviously errors.
They didn't necessarily seem like errors to me. Even coastal Destin which is normally very moderated when it comes to winter heat (normal January maximum only 6.1C higher than its average high) has seen 32C in January, and since DeFuniak Springs and Tallahassee are inland they would have potential for more heat.
But if the DeFuniak Springs one is an error, that would kind of explain some other weird readings. I do NOT buy that -6C record low for April, for one.
And if the Tallahassee one is an error, it had better be a one off.
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YOU JUST CAN'T BEAT this January weather in the heart of the interpalm zone. Same highs and slightly lower lows than the tropical part of the state, but in this case it just gives the perfect shape to the day. It's like an attractive curvy day, but not an extreme overweight continental day (like a Tulsa day)
Oh yes I can beat it! That kind of weather can't be beat for what I want in June or mid-September, but NOT January, where you can't beat the generously snowy and reasonably but not excessively cold weather of a Dfa/Dfb classic humid continental climate.
Palm Bay and Tulsa (which is a subtropical climate, not a continental one) are both horribly underweight when it comes to having enough cold. Places like the GTA, Minneapolis, Portland, and Ottawa are of just the right weight, whereas places like Thunder Bay or International Falls are overweight with too much cold.
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, I agree it is way better than the USDA one but I just used the USDA one because I am unfortunately not familiar with Canada and the US as a whole applied to the Canadian USDA system.
, Jacksonville's weather in particular is very notable, today and tomorrow will be 27C with 16-18C lows. 
? Or is there an error in the readings?
