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Old 06-16-2021, 04:49 AM
 
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It's not that bad. At least it is not 80% humidity!

How do you know super highs will get bigger over the years?
We have had highs locked in over FL for years as we don't get winters anymore. Over time the jet stream will go away as the planet heats up well past our lifetime. Fires and no rain is the norm out west now.
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Old 06-16-2021, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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We have had highs locked in over FL for years as we don't get winters anymore. Over time the jet stream will go away as the planet heats up well past our lifetime. Fires and no rain is the norm out west now.
Jacksonville, Florida, got as cold as 34 degrees F last January. I would classify that as a winter temperature.

Don't believe everything you hear or read. Portland, Oregon, got a generous amount of rain as recent as one year ago. https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...y-3-years.html

Predictions and forecasts can be and have been wrong. In the 1990s, the sea level was predicted to rise by 20 feet by the year 2010. Never happened!
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Old 06-16-2021, 05:09 PM
 
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Jacksonville, Florida, got as cold as 34 degrees F last January. I would classify that as a winter temperature.

Don't believe everything you hear or read. Portland, Oregon, got a generous amount of rain as recent as one year ago. https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...y-3-years.html

Predictions and forecasts can be and have been wrong. In the 1990s, the sea level was predicted to rise by 20 feet by the year 2010. Never happened!
Well i am about 200 miles south of there and have not had a temp below 36f in years. Sea level rise will be 12ft on parts of the globe out past 70 years. I used to see 19f to 24f year after year in Tampa back when we had winters in the 1980's.

Just look up the below normal temps vs the above normal temps in FL since 2011 and see what wins. Been a huge warm up with blazing hot falls with 90's into Nov. Coconuts are now growing north of Tarpon springs.
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Old 06-17-2021, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Well i am about 200 miles south of there and have not had a temp below 36f in years.
Sometimes that happens. Don't worry about it.

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Sea level rise will be 12ft on parts of the globe out past 70 years. I used to see 19f to 24f year after year in Tampa back when we had winters in the 1980's.
Not sure what that means... "12 feet on parts of the globe out of the past 70 years." "Will rise?" In what time frame? Sounds like a prediction and we both know how those go sometimes!

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Just look up the below normal temps vs the above normal temps in FL since 2011 and see what wins. Been a huge warm up with blazing hot falls with 90's into Nov. Coconuts are now growing north of Tarpon springs.
You can choose to worry about it. Won't change anything.
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Old 06-17-2021, 05:14 PM
 
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Sometimes that happens. Don't worry about it.



Not sure what that means... "12 feet on parts of the globe out of the past 70 years." "Will rise?" In what time frame? Sounds like a prediction and we both know how those go sometimes!



You can choose to worry about it. Won't change anything.
Never in all my years of keeping records since the 70's have i seen year after year with no temps not 32f or below the first 41 years i lived in Tampa and have now lived well north of Tampa since 2004. Well if you are around in 70 years you can tell me if i was wrong.
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Never in all my years of keeping records since the 70's have i seen year after year with no temps not 32f or below the first 41 years i lived in Tampa and have now lived well north of Tampa since 2004.
Are you sure about that?

Coldest minimum temperature. Tampa, Florida

Year---------------- Temperature

Jan. 18, 2018------ 29 degrees F
Jan. 13, 2011------ 31
Jan. 11, 2010------ 25
Jan. 03, 2008------ 29


There are several more... https://www.currentresults.com/Yearl...emperature.php


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Well if you are around in 70 years you can tell me if i was wrong.
That is why they set the predictions so far in the future. So most of us will be around to discover the predictions were wrong.
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Old 06-18-2021, 04:55 AM
 
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Are you sure about that?

Coldest minimum temperature. Tampa, Florida

Year---------------- Temperature

Jan. 18, 2018------ 29 degrees F
Jan. 13, 2011------ 31
Jan. 11, 2010------ 25
Jan. 03, 2008------ 29


There are several more... https://www.currentresults.com/Yearl...emperature.php




That is why they set the predictions so far in the future. So most of us will be around to discover the predictions were wrong.
The last 3 years i have not had a temp of 32f or below. I don't remember ever seeing that in all the 80's and 90's and first ten years of the 2000's. Remember i am right on the gulf so my temps stay higher and i am well north of Tampa.
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Old 06-18-2021, 12:51 PM
 
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The last 3 years i have not had a temp of 32f or below. I don't remember ever seeing that in all the 80's and 90's and first ten years of the 2000's. Remember i am right on the gulf so my temps stay higher and i am well north of Tampa.
The minimum temp at Tampa was 32 degrees F or lower as recently as 2018.

As for as multiple years in which the temp did not fall to 32 degrees F or under, it has happened several times in past years...

Coldest minimum temps, Tampa, Florida, 33 degrees or higher:

1919-1926
1952-1954
1990-1994
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Old 06-18-2021, 01:45 PM
 
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The minimum temp at Tampa was 32 degrees F or lower as recently as 2018.

As for as multiple years in which the temp did not fall to 32 degrees F or under, it has happened several times in past years...

Coldest minimum temps, Tampa, Florida, 33 degrees or higher:

1919-1926
1952-1954
1990-1994
All them dates were before my time other than the 90's. I was born 9 years after 1954. I will have to check back on 1990-94. 1990 is when our weather changed for good to hot winters. Other than the freaky 2010 when we were seeing highs in the 40's and 50's for 3 months. I had more 30's in 1994 than i have the last many years and had a 35f in Feb of 94. So ya i do not see 32's or colder on my records from 1990 to 94. Did have a 28f in 1995. That was a active and wet winter in 95-96.

Also had a low 35f in March 15th in 1993 after the no name storm.
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Old 06-18-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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All them dates were before my time other than the 90's. I was born 9 years after 1954. I will have to check back on 1990-94. 1990 is when our weather changed for good to hot winters. Other than the freaky 2010 when we were seeing highs in the 40's and 50's for 3 months. I had more 30's in 1994 than i have the last many years and had a 35f in Feb of 94. So ya i do not see 32's or colder on my records from 1990 to 94. Did have a 28f in 1995. That was a active and wet winter in 95-96.

Also had a low 35f in March 15th in 1993 after the no name storm.
Regardless when you were born, the weather records speak for themselves.

Multiple years without freezing temperatures in Tampa is not that uncommon. It has happened before and will most likely happen again.

Hot winters? The actual figures show different.
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