Most Northern Subtropical climate in the world? (Georgia, Charlotte, coast)
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Well I was thinking of it more in the purest climatic sense – technically a true tropical climate never has frost - ever.
Well, it's not supposed to have frost, even though some tropical climates do. It should be noted that all (or at least the vast majority) of tropical climates that experience frost are on the fringes of the tropics anyway.
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Despite what most people think – technically most of even deep south Florida is subtropical (one month has a mean temp under 18 C/65 F).
That's true about most of South Florida, but there's a pretty substantial chunk of the state that does meet the 18C criterion.
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The Miami Airport outside the city sees frost maybe once every 20 to 30 years - this is why there has always been the debate of where Miami falls (tropical or subtropical). Of course like anywhere locations that straddle the line have a foot in both I guess.
Cool pics. There are some species of palm so hardy, they aren't really a good measure of "subtropicalness". I tend to think of more tender palms, subtropical fruit, and an abundance of winter flowering plants as the look for a subtropical climate.
Thought you might enjoy a pic of Sierra Blanca peak near White Sands, NM. Elev of the peak is over 12,000 ft. I like the contrast between the desert (that is white sand, not snow) and the snow capped mountain. White Sands has high temps in the upper 50's in winter, with lows in the mid 20's.
Sierra Blanca is mountain lion country. This one lost all fear of humans and had to be destroyed.
[quote=tom77falcons;26261382]Thought you might enjoy a pic of Sierra Blanca peak near White Sands, NM. Elev of the peak is over 12,000 ft. I like the contrast between the desert (that is white sand, not snow) and the snow capped mountain. White Sands has high temps in the upper 50's in winter, with lows in the mid 20's.
Nice pic, love that area of New Mexico
The movie "White Sands" (1992) was filmed on location, I remember talking to a park ranger telling me what a crazy guy Mickey Rourke was then (his bad old days )
It's very easy to get disorientated out in the dunes, I had a tough time finding where I had parked my car
Interestingly, a back up runway for the (former) space shuttle is located just north of the dune field,
only used once (March 1984).
Very strong cross winds that day made for a difficult landing, maybe why it was never used again
That one is oceanic, not subtropical - the hottest month is 20C, not 22C. It also falls short of Trewarths's subtropical criteria. That said, 4.3C is crazy.
I'm a bit suspicious about these figures. With the sunshine hours for BC during summer, that is a very low diurnal range.
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorth
Could you grow Washingtonia Robustus in the Victoria area and have it reach high heights
I can't find any pics of bigger ones on forums etc. The cooler conditions of BC, would make it harder to recover from freeze damage. Similar to the UK, where they may grow for a while, but eventually succumb to cold.
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Originally Posted by tom77falcons
Thought you might enjoy a pic of Sierra Blanca peak near White Sands, NM. Elev of the peak is over 12,000 ft. I like the contrast between the desert (that is white sand, not snow) and the snow capped mountain. White Sands has high temps in the upper 50's in winter, with lows in the mid 20's.
Sierra Blanca is mountain lion country. This one lost all fear of humans and had to be destroyed.
Another cool pic. I enjoyed the dry mountain scenery of the States. I spent winters in Tahoe, and the Carson Valley, and liked living in the mix of desert, forest, mountain and snow. I liked all the mountain areas over there that I saw.
That's a big ***** cat - I didn't get to see one unfortunately. I see Jaguars have spread back into Texas. That would be cool, as long as you aren't on the menu.
My definition of subtropical climate (one of the following must be true):
1. Average temperature is 0~15 C in the coldest month AND >22 C in the warmest month. Average minimum extreme >-10 C. Frost free period >210 d.
2. Average temperature is >5 C in the coldest month AND 18~22 C in the warmest month. Average minimum extreme >-5 C. Frost free period >240 d.
3. Monthly average temperature is always 10~18 C. Average minimum extreme >-5 C. Frost free period > 240 d.
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