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Old 02-26-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Okay, what's center, right, middle right and far right then what is left, middle left and far left?

My point being that calling someone or something "far" left or right does nothing, it's simply calling someone way out there far from mainstream, it's a qualifier that most of the time, like 99% of the time is misplaced. Since "Far right" and "Far Left" cannot be pigeon holed it's a loosely applied subjective title, when everyone is far left or far right then are they really "far"? let's keep terms like "far" left or right for the truly out there people, not someone who won 53% of the vote and won by 7% over his challenger. Tom Barrett or Scott Walker are not far anything.
Walker=far right Republican/ALEC operative
Dole=moderate Republican
Obama=moderate Republican
Gus Hall (RIP)=far left/communist
Bernie Sanders=democratic socialist
Dennis Kucinich=liberal

These shoes fit.

Those who voted for Walker are bringing back plutocracy to Wisconsin. That is what you voted for and that's what you are getting. California voted to support the middle class. To each their own.
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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Walker=far right Republican/ALEC operative
Dole=moderate Republican
Obama=moderate Republican
Gus Hall (RIP)=far left/communist
Bernie Sanders=democratic socialist
Dennis Kucinich=liberal

These shoes fit.

Those who voted for Walker are bringing back plutocracy to Wisconsin. That is what you voted for and that's what you are getting. California voted to support the middle class. To each their own.
CA is a cess pool of sloth, demagogery and little moral value. THAT is what those folks continue to vote for. NO ONE buys your BS about supporting the. middle class anymore. While WI is not perfect (it cannot be as long as capital is in Madison) WI will survice long after CA has degraded into an economic basket case full of civil strife.
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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CA is a cess pool of sloth, demagogery and little moral value. THAT is what those folks continue to vote for. NO ONE buys your BS about supporting the. middle class anymore. While WI is not perfect (it cannot be as long as capital is in Madison) WI will survice long after CA has degraded into an economic basket case full of civil strife.
You might want to do some more research. Madison and Dane County have the largest increase in new private sector growth of any area in the state.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/28/us...pagewanted=all

After years of spending cuts and annual state budget deficits larger than the entire budgets of some states, this month the independent California Legislative Analyst’s Office projected a deficit for next year of $1.9 billion — down from $25 billion at one point — and said California might post a $1 billion surplus in 2014, even accounting for the tendency of these projections to vary markedly from year to year.

A reason for the change, in addition to a series of deep budget cuts in recent years, was voter approval of Proposition 30, promoted by Gov. Jerry Brown to raise taxes temporarily to avoid up to $6 billion in education cuts.
“The state’s economic recovery, prior budget cuts and the additional, temporary taxes provided by Proposition 30 have combined to bring California to a promising moment: the possible end of a decade of acute state budget challenges,” the report said. “Our economic and budgetary forecast indicates that California’s leaders face a dramatically smaller budget problem in 2013-14.”
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Old 02-28-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Portland OR
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/28/us...pagewanted=all

After years of spending cuts and annual state budget deficits larger than the entire budgets of some states, this month the independent California Legislative Analyst’s Office projected a deficit for next year of $1.9 billion — down from $25 billion at one point — and said California might post a $1 billion surplus in 2014, even accounting for the tendency of these projections to vary markedly from year to year.

A reason for the change, in addition to a series of deep budget cuts in recent years, was voter approval of Proposition 30, promoted by Gov. Jerry Brown to raise taxes temporarily to avoid up to $6 billion in education cuts.
“The state’s economic recovery, prior budget cuts and the additional, temporary taxes provided by Proposition 30 have combined to bring California to a promising moment: the possible end of a decade of acute state budget challenges,” the report said. “Our economic and budgetary forecast indicates that California’s leaders face a dramatically smaller budget problem in 2013-14.”
A NYT article is hardly a news story but rather lib. propoganda.
Nontheless the article also states only 38% of CA residents feel state is moving in right direction.
Me thinks this is putting lipstick on a pig.
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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LOL...NY Times liberal...ahahahahaha! Good one! Remember when they endorsed Jill Stein for president? Oh wait they didn't...ahahaha! Corporate media liberal....priceless...thanks for the laugh!
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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My impressions of Wisconsin moving here from Ohio are that Wisconsin is more conservative than Ohio on fiscal issues and more liberal on social issues, though that might say more about Ohio than it says about Wisconsin. I think Wisconsin is more ideologically polarized than Ohio as well, especially the Democrats, though the Wisconsin GOP is probably a bit to the right of the Ohio GOP. Overall I'd still say Wisconsin is pretty close to the US on average on both types of issues.
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Old 03-06-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Wisconsin has had both extremes.

On the Liberal side, UW in Madison has a long reputation of being liberal, Bob LaFollette was Progressive Party candidate for president, Senator Russ Feingold was the only one to vote against bombing Iraq, and Progressive Magazine, published in Madison, survived efforts to shut them down, once for publishing diagrams about how to build atomic bombs, which they copied from library books.

On the other hand, there was Senator Joe McCarthy, and governor Scott Walker and VP candidate Paul Ryan. And the Supreme Court had to clamp down on the prison in Boscobel, rulinig that "you just can't do that to human beings."
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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CA is a cess pool of sloth, demagogery and little moral value. THAT is what those folks continue to vote for. NO ONE buys your BS about supporting the. middle class anymore. While WI is not perfect (it cannot be as long as capital is in Madison) WI will survice long after CA has degraded into an economic basket case full of civil strife.

Bit biased hey? LOL

Wisconsin has a long tradition as a progressive state, not right not left but open minded and frequently progressive...

Since Walker and becoming a battle ground state, we have been inundated with right wing propaganda. Heck we got 5 plus calls a day from the Republicans during election season!!!!

All that political garbage they were spewing, has really fired up the hate in the gullible supporters... The hate is so thick you can see it in ccjarider's post, or a drive through Waukesha county..

We are loosing it folks... We used to be a role model of balance and civility.... The hate and fear mongers aim to change that and so far it looks as if it is working...
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Bit biased hey? LOL

Wisconsin has a long tradition as a progressive state, not right not left but open minded and frequently progressive...

Since Walker and becoming a battle ground state, we have been inundated with right wing propaganda. Heck we got 5 plus calls a day from the Republicans during election season!!!!

All that political garbage they were spewing, has really fired up the hate in the gullible supporters... The hate is so thick you can see it in ccjarider's post, or a drive through Waukesha county..

We are loosing it folks... We used to be a role model of balance and civility.... The hate and fear mongers aim to change that and so far it looks as if it is working...
Bit biased hey? LOL
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