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Your welcome. Hope you make the best of your life regardless of what you make. Just remember if your fortunate enough to make 100K+... know that there are many who don't have half of that and when you start to get the urge to complain, first think of all you DO have. Peace brother!
Yes, those who have a good income are fortunate, and luck does play a role.
But you should recognize that for most of those people, the money did not fall out of the sky into their hands. A LOT of hard work also accompanies many of those peoples' accomplishments. Many had to put in 4-8 years of hard academic work and their own finances to gain proficiency in some complicate topics. Then they had to work their way up in the professional world and deliver results in pressufe-filled environments. It doesn't come without sacrifices.
We don't live in a full-on meritocracy, and life isn't fair all the time...but in general, the person who put in substantial effort in putting themselves in a wealth-generating position deserves to earn substantially more than the one who didn't.
This right here is snobbery. Saying 70k is "such a low salary" and saying "only a fool would accept such a low paying job"
Um...no...that is not what I said. Let's go back and work on those reading comprehension skills, Skippy. What I said was:
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Originally Posted by Tober138
if I were making $70k per year, that would mean that I was being paid substantially less than most other people who have a similar job / position as myself. In such a case, I certainly would complain about it...well, not entirely true, I would be looking for a new job (assuming I was foolish enough to accept a position at such an low salary to begin with).
To re-frame: The industry average salary for someone in my position, along with my skillsets, education and experience (among other factors) is well above $70k per year. So for me, in the position that I currently occupy in my field, $70k is substantially lower than average - I am not saying "70k is such a low salary" in a general sense, I am speaking of a specific case. I am also not saying that, "only a fool would accept such a low paying job" when referring to such a salary - I am saying that it would be foolish of me to accept a position at such a salary so far below the industry average, when I know what I should be worth and what my peers are making in a similar position.
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Originally Posted by city_data91
Who says this hypothetical 70k position would be the same type of job you have now? Let's say you get fired and can't find another job in your field, but you get offered a 70k job in another field (and for this example, let's say 70k is a normal salary for that field).
That is a valid point, although this is a completely different situation than the one I was discussing. I was speaking about one's salary in a particular position and field, not about switching jobs or fields. Of course if I went back to delivering pizzas for Dominos (as I did back in college) I certainly would not expect to be making anywhere near what I currently make if I decided that I really wanted to go back and do that for a living.
@Tober138... don't get mad because city_data91 called you out on your snob qualities. he made ALL valid points and it took you this long to figure out what to say. EPIC FAIL indeed!
LMAO... where would making 100K a year be the equivalent of 30K? Beverly Hills? Hollywood? lol... a you thought MY answer was bad haha
I know a little about two specific cities.
Oxnard California where I live now. I make over $70,000 a year. My wife works part time and makes over $40,000 a year. Together we make just over $110,000 a year. We purchased our 49 year old home for $310,000 and that was fairly inexpensive for our area.
Lets say that we were to move to Surprise Arizona today. we could buy a home for $75,000 and the home would be within 10 years old. If I were to make $30,000 a year in the Phoenix area we would do just fine. Chances are my wife could choose to stay home if she wanted. The truth is that I could find a job that pays more than $30,000 and my wife would work anyway. I have seen similar jobs paying in the low $40,000 range and she has found similar jobs paying in the $30,000 range.
It really is about location. I have a co-worker that is from Kansas City Kansas. She can buy a home for $50,000 in her parents part of town. She plans on returning to the Kansas City area and buying a home. She can't do that here.
I'm sitting at home with my dog at my feet developing software for more than twice what you make unloading boxes.
Enjoy!
yeah you probably weigh twice what I do sitting at home with your dog at your feet as well.... oh who are you kidding? you know your dog isn't at your feet, he's in your lap giving you a happy ending.
I just wanted to remind all of you making over 70K that our next monthly meeting will be next Tuesday. Lobster and caviar will be served promply at 10. We will follow that up with having our servants do manual labor for no reason at all and finish up by exploiting the lower class and complaining we don't make enough money.
Wow, how much do we pay the servants? I mean how far do you think you can stretch $70,000?? My wifes cousin makes $200,000 and her husband makes $70,000 or so. They live nicely but don't have any servants.
And there are areas of the country where you can live comfortably on 30k. In that case, there's no need for someone to complain about making 30k.
In expensive areas, 100k might not make you rich, but it's no reason to complain.
Like I said, it's all relative. If you're making 100k, but have col expendatures of 140k, you have something to complain about. Either your income level isn't up to par, or you're not living in the best area for you.
I just wanted to remind all of you making over 70K that our next monthly meeting will be next Tuesday. Lobster and caviar will be served promply at 10. We will follow that up with having our servants do manual labor for no reason at all and finish up by exploiting the lower class and complaining we don't make enough money.
I can't make it, sorry. My servants have all gone on strike and are protesting on public forums how much it sucks that they make less than $70k.
But the difference is you can actually live comfortably on 70k-100k. Maybe not the lifestyle you would like, but you can live comfortably. You can't live comfortably on 20k.
It doesnt matter whether you can live comfortably. All that matters is that you are getting what you are worth. For someone who took the easy path in career buy going to college and getting an entry level job, and moving up should make far less than someone who traveled a harder, more risky path.
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