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Old 11-27-2012, 06:32 AM
 
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Man, I'm 20 years old and I NEVER had a job either. I don't want nor need one ever in my life. I HATE working for somebody else in order for them to feel rich. Look man, there's other ways of making money now that we gotten older we have to prepare for ourselves for the world. Not sure, what you did during all those years after high school man, but I feel you when you really need and desperate for a jobs. That's why I got a blog that is helping people to get jobs when they couldn't find it... To those that are reading this, I want to help you get a job, and I truly mean that. I don't want to live in a world where people are struggling, I seen so much already from the struggles...
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yes except the recent graduates who haven't had the chance to get inexperience because no one will hire them without experience.

That unemployment/underemployment rate is much higher than 4.5%. Remove the decimal point.

53% of Recent College Grads Are Jobless or Underemployed—How? - Jordan Weissmann - The Atlantic
"Underemployed" is such a nonsense term.

I was "underemployed" coming out of college during a major bull market. I had a temp job sorting, filing and copying paperwork when I first came out of college with my Bachelor's degree. I worked my way up because that's how it's been in the job market for decades.

It's not like my Father's generation where you could walk into an office and say "I have a college degree" and immediately be on the track to be an executive.

Actual stats from the government show that being educated makes you far more likely to be employed. Your hard work and skills will move you up the ladder because corporations are greedy and they will do whatever it takes to make more money, even promote valuable employees!

I don't consider lazy bums who gave up looking to be "unemployed", nor do I consider college graduates working at the Gap to be...because I applied for (and got rejected for) a manager's job at Banana Republic when I graduated college with my BA. Ten years later I have my MBA, Series 7, Series 65 and nearly 8 years experience in the Financial Services industry. I was renting a room in a house with two other dudes and now I'm a homeowner. I was making less than 50% of what I was making a decade later.

You have to start low, and there are PLENTY OF JOBS out there...just make yourself employable for one of them. If you have no education, intellect or skills, you have to start at the very bottom in some kind of manual labor. If you have an education, you can start in menial office work. If you have a specific skill that is in demand, you can start as a specialist. If you have a degree that qualifies you specifically to do something that requires a degree and is in high demand, you can start as a professional and be making good money.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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You mean just jump behind the counter and start serving people? Grab a rag and start scrubbing some pans? Round up carts at the shopping center?

I suppose the holidays are about as good a time as any to find a job in retail. If you've got a strong back, you could pick vegetables or something.
Well, I will say this: I was shopping in a store with disorganized, sloppy shelves where nothing could be gotten easily. This is called unrecovered in retailng. I got so disgusted I started straightening up the shelves. The manager loved it and offered me a job!

Another time, when staying at a hotel/B&B, I did my laundry. The hotel's laundry was in the washer, so I dried and folded it. They, too, wanted me to work there, esp. when they found out I am a darn good cook!!
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Illinois
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Man, I'm 20 years old and I NEVER had a job either. I don't want nor need one ever in my life. I HATE working for somebody else in order for them to feel rich. Look man, there's other ways of making money now that we gotten older we have to prepare for ourselves for the world. Not sure, what you did during all those years after high school man, but I feel you when you really need and desperate for a jobs. That's why I got a blog that is helping people to get jobs when they couldn't find it... To those that are reading this, I want to help you get a job, and I truly mean that. I don't want to live in a world where people are struggling, I seen so much already from the struggles...
Right. Because someone's going to take work advice from someone who refuses to have a job.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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Man, I'm 20 years old and I NEVER had a job either. I don't want nor need one ever in my life. I HATE working for somebody else in order for them to feel rich. Look man, there's other ways of making money now that we gotten older we have to prepare for ourselves for the world. Not sure, what you did during all those years after high school man, but I feel you when you really need and desperate for a jobs. That's why I got a blog that is helping people to get jobs when they couldn't find it... To those that are reading this, I want to help you get a job, and I truly mean that. I don't want to live in a world where people are struggling, I seen so much already from the struggles...
Is this a solicitation?

You've only made two posts.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Man, I'm 20 years old and I NEVER had a job either. I don't want nor need one ever in my life. I HATE working for somebody else in order for them to feel rich
This coming from a poster with the handle "INeedJobs".
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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Well, I will say this: I was shopping in a store with disorganized, sloppy shelves where nothing could be gotten easily. This is called unrecovered in retailng. I got so disgusted I started straightening up the shelves. The manager loved it and offered me a job!

Another time, when staying at a hotel/B&B, I did my laundry. The hotel's laundry was in the washer, so I dried and folded it. They, too, wanted me to work there, esp. when they found out I am a darn good cook!!
Had to make my own job when I graduated... no hiring at the time in the engineering field.

I have never successfully applied for a job... on graduation I applied to many Silicon Valley companies and quite a few government agencies... timing/experience were against me.

In every job I've had since paying into Social Security starting at age 12, I was either working for myself or was asked to work for a company...

Simple things like being a regular at the local auto parts store resulted in an after school and weekend counter job. When things were slow, I straighten the shelves, sweep the sidewalk, wash the windows... the owner was very disappointed when I left for college...

Repairing cars resulted in people asking me to work on their cars.

In college, I started repairing office machines and the owner of a local company had just won the contract for the school district and asked me to work for him... I did that for two summers.

Went to look at an old lathe and mill a company was getting rid of and ended up working for the tool and die shop that was making parts for the Space Shuttle... great learning experience and it was a Union Shop

Rebuilding Generators on the side ultimately led to becoming Hospital Engineering Director... never asked for the job...

I have friends that found employment through their church or hobbies... another volunteered at the SPCA and eventually, was offered a paid position...

For those like us... it was showing what we could do and having my degree cinched the deal with the Hospital...

In some ways, I would say a college degree is way over rated... at least the way it is being sold.

I know people with degrees in psychology or literature that drive cabs and like it...

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Old 11-27-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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"Underemployed" is such a nonsense term.

I was "underemployed" coming out of college during a major bull market. I had a temp job sorting, filing and copying paperwork when I first came out of college with my Bachelor's degree. I worked my way up because that's how it's been in the job market for decades.

It's not like my Father's generation where you could walk into an office and say "I have a college degree" and immediately be on the track to be an executive.

Actual stats from the government show that being educated makes you far more likely to be employed. Your hard work and skills will move you up the ladder because corporations are greedy and they will do whatever it takes to make more money, even promote valuable employees!

I don't consider lazy bums who gave up looking to be "unemployed", nor do I consider college graduates working at the Gap to be...because I applied for (and got rejected for) a manager's job at Banana Republic when I graduated college with my BA. Ten years later I have my MBA, Series 7, Series 65 and nearly 8 years experience in the Financial Services industry. I was renting a room in a house with two other dudes and now I'm a homeowner. I was making less than 50% of what I was making a decade later.

You have to start low, and there are PLENTY OF JOBS out there...just make yourself employable for one of them. If you have no education, intellect or skills, you have to start at the very bottom in some kind of manual labor. If you have an education, you can start in menial office work. If you have a specific skill that is in demand, you can start as a specialist. If you have a degree that qualifies you specifically to do something that requires a degree and is in high demand, you can start as a professional and be making good money.
I am about to graduate with a BS in Accounting which is supposed to be a high demand field and can't even find a menial office work job to start out in. I have no problems starting at the very bottom as I have been working a job that requires intensive manual labor to put myself through school. While I might be able to move up in the company I currently work for in the future, working your way up in these types of jobs really doesn't require a degree, it is all about learning the system and demonstrating your ability to follow that system on a consistent basis over time. That manager job you put in for at Banana Republic probably instead went to someone within the company who had paid their dues working part-time at the store for years and it was determined that "it was their time". While I am fortunate to be graduating debt free, if I had known I'd still be working the exact same job even with a degree I definitely would not have wasted all that money. Based on how others have moved up at my current job, it is all about job performance and years in the company, a degree doesn't provide any shortcut. So when people like me say we are underemployed, it is simply because we are unable to even get an entry level position within our fields of study.
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Old 11-27-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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i think the hardest thing is not, "I don't want to start at the bottom" or " I am too good to be doing X" it is simply, " I cannot find a bottom to start at".

Past expereince I could not get the entry level unpaid intern for a literary agency. However I did receive a postive email jsut recently so that may change.

All I can offer to the OP is keep trying.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:59 AM
 
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ok so i am 24 years old and i have never had a job before in my life. i am looking right now but no place is hireing me i am told its because after i hand in my application or resusme i do not call them back the next day and then repeat calling them back everyday untill i get the job or they say stop calling us you dont have the job. but honestly i do not know what to do because i am trying places like mcdonalds and even they wont hire me and i really really need a job badly and i have no idea how to get one since i have no money and if i go back to school it will just be a waste of time for me right now. i failed badly and i just dont know what to do. like how do i get a job at mcdonalds or walmart do i really have to call them up every day untill they say no and then move on to the next one. heck even dishwashers say oh u need exprence. well how am i supposed to get exprence.
This may be harsh, and I am sorry if you are offended. That is not my intention. However, judging from your posts, esp. this one, I can see why they have not hired you. The spelling in your posts is horrible. How do you present yourself in the interviews? How is your appearance, attitude, manner of speaking? Is your writing on the application legible and neat?

I'd say, go to a community college. Talk to an admissions person. You will surely have to take some remedial English classes. So you failed, so what. It doesn't have to be the end of the world. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, pick up a book and read. You can do it. You can achieve your goals. Talk to the counselors they have at the school about how and where to start.

Community colleges are a great way to get started in a career. Often, vocational subjects are taught. Sometimes these have internships available. This is another way to get into work or a career. I had many truly dedicated instructors who really cared about what they taught. They took an interest in students who took the work seriously. They were more interested in their students than the professors at a well-known liberal arts university I attended. CCs are usually very affordable, as well. I attended part-time, paying as I went. I graduated with no debt whatsoever. If you want to further your education, CCs allow you to save quite a bit of money.

If for some reason you can't attend a CC, then do a search for books on grammar and spelling. There are also many sites that have information for FREE on grammar, spelling, math, etc. When you read, have a paperback dictionary with you. Look up every word you do not understand.

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