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it is like this for the toll takers and Police Officers... for toll takers they had over 200 applicants for each position and police had 30 applicants for each academy position.
Thing is many washout or otherwise don't make the law enforcement cut.
Toll takers makes one wonder if they are paying too much?
The number of applicants for a job is a very poor indicator of the pay/value of the job. We get hundreds or perhaps a thousand applicants for some jobs. Yet out of that thousand perhaps only 10-20 are actually qualified. Going by the total number of applicants, some people say we're overpaying. Going by the number of QUALIFIED applicants who actually accept, we are severely underpaying. That's right. We review hundreds of applicants to find 10 qualified and those 10 all turn us down because we don't pay enough.
The number of applicants for a job is a very poor indicator of the pay/value of the job. We get hundreds or perhaps a thousand applicants for some jobs. Yet out of that thousand perhaps only 10-20 are actually qualified. Going by the total number of applicants, some people say we're overpaying. Going by the number of QUALIFIED applicants who actually accept, we are severely underpaying. That's right. We review hundreds of applicants to find 10 qualified and those 10 all turn us down because we don't pay enough.
You gotta laugh at these employers that are deer in headlights when it comes to not being able to find anyone for positions after they become reknown for treating their employees like dirt and lowballing on all salary offers well below market wages
I mean what did you think would happen? How can you make six figures a year yet have no simple common sense?
Miserable workplaces with bad reputations can’t attract anyone? Shocking I tell ya
The number of applicants for a job is a very poor indicator of the pay/value of the job. We get hundreds or perhaps a thousand applicants for some jobs. Yet out of that thousand perhaps only 10-20 are actually qualified. Going by the total number of applicants, some people say we're overpaying. Going by the number of QUALIFIED applicants who actually accept, we are severely underpaying. That's right. We review hundreds of applicants to find 10 qualified and those 10 all turn us down because we don't pay enough.
Same here. Big company, too, so I can't just "pay more" without a budget, and there's no reasoning with upper management about the budget. This is a hard-to-find niche skill set, by the way, not just "java developer" or what have you. We've mostly been training people who lack the exact relevant experience but have interest and aptitude for the skill set, which works OK until they've been here a few years and a competitor dangles a $20k pay raise in front of their nose and we have to start over again. I'm expecting an exodus this year, which might get their attention.
I wish I could. But I don't set the pay rate. That's set by people who believe lots of applicants means the job is overpaid. Things will have to hit crisis before they respond. And it will usually be something like "hire more contractors" even though they cost a lot more because the contractor will pay competitive wages and add a nice fee and profit on top of it.
Open a business and see how long you last with your money at stake.
I was a very generous liberal, then I opened a business and got dope slapped by reality.
That is true, but I think you're missing an important point in this thread.
We're talking about employers who don't pay "market rate" for similar jobs/work, i.e. cashier at grocery stores. If you're store is paying significantly less than the store across town, of course no one is going to come work for you or it's going to be hard to keep employees. If the other stores are more profitable than you and they pay more, then isn't it logical to conclude that it's your business model that needs some tweaking?
The number of applicants for a job is a very poor indicator of the pay/value of the job. We get hundreds or perhaps a thousand applicants for some jobs. Yet out of that thousand perhaps only 10-20 are actually qualified. Going by the total number of applicants, some people say we're overpaying. Going by the number of QUALIFIED applicants who actually accept, we are severely underpaying. That's right. We review hundreds of applicants to find 10 qualified and those 10 all turn us down because we don't pay enough.
My response was to the post by Boxus and picking Blueberries...
You gotta laugh at these employers that are deer in headlights when it comes to not being able to find anyone for positions after they become reknown for treating their employees like dirt and lowballing on all salary offers well below market wages
I mean what did you think would happen? How can you make six figures a year yet have no simple common sense?
Miserable workplaces with bad reputations can’t attract anyone? Shocking I tell ya
One of my contractor friends lost a lot of employees when an out of state firm was awarded big infrastructure contract... he treated his employees well and they would tell you that... kept them on when things were slow just to keep the crew together... some had been with the company 20+ years.
The new contractor offered $3 more an hour with almost an immediate start date... it really hurt my friend but he couldn't do that... so about half left... all being younger.
Anyway... the ones that left worked about 11 months and did realize about 5k extra earnings... then the project was over and they were all let go... some came back asking for their old jobs back but my friend had nothing to offer... he said loyalty is a two way street.
Right or Wrong... the feelings run deep on both sides...
If someone is offering below market wages it would seem they are not really interested in hiring at the moment?
One of my contractor friends lost a lot of employees when an out of state firm was awarded big infrastructure contract... he treated his employees well and they would tell you that... kept them on when things were slow just to keep the crew together... some had been with the company 20+ years.
The new contractor offered $3 more an hour with almost an immediate start date... it really hurt my friend but he couldn't do that... so about half left... all being younger.
Anyway... the ones that left worked about 11 months and did realize about 5k extra earnings... then the project was over and they were all let go... some came back asking for their old jobs back but my friend had nothing to offer... he said loyalty is a two way street.
Right or Wrong... the feelings run deep on both sides...
If someone is offering below market wages it would seem they are not really interested in hiring at the moment?
I’m sure it’s tough for the immediate boss, but the higher ups could have taken a bit off their ridiculous loaded wallet and discontinued their further pursuit of owning 20 yachts and 50 cars and 8800 sq. Feet of 2-3 homes in various states for 3-4 people (no one needs all that nonsense) and gave those employees 4 more dollars an hour to keep them if the team was that valuable. If you want to keep a quality group, you can’t be greedy. Playing it cheap doesn’t do anyone any favors. Everyone suffers in the end be it short term or long term
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