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Old 09-14-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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That website invents data for most countries, if you see they update the Brazilian wage every month. how if the government doesn't offer monthly data.

https://economia.uol.com.br/empregos...3-diz-ibge.htm

The real average wage of Brazil is 590$. It has been going down since 2014, as well as the unemployment. Brazil has a very high unemployment rate for a developing country with almost 13%.
You don’t speak Portuguese I guess. They speak the average salary going down in PURCHASE POWER, considering the inflation in 2015, what is relative… so they give the number of 1.853 for what would be the purchase power in 2014.

In the truth the average salary in Brazil in 2015 was 2.480 (USD 794) considering employees in government jobs but considering only private companies the average was 2.168

And in this average are not self-employed people like many architects, doctors, engineers etc…

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Funcionário de empresa ganha em média R$ 2.480 no País. Compare salário por categoria - Notícias - R7 Economia


http://economia.uol.com.br/empregos-...dera-queda.htm
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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You don’t speak Portuguese I guess. They speak the average salary going down in PURCHASE POWER, considering the inflation in 2015, what is relative… so they give the number of 1.853 for what would be the purchase power in 2014.

In the truth the average salary in Brazil in 2015 was 2.480 (USD 794) considering employees in government jobs but considering only private companies the average was 2.168

And in this average are not self-employed people like many architects, doctors, engineers etc…

Opposition newspaper

Funcionário de empresa ganha em média R$ 2.480 no País. Compare salário por categoria - Notícias - R7 Economia


http://economia.uol.com.br/empregos-...dera-queda.htm

EVANGELISTTI you cannot understand or explain a country only by using average basic economic measures...these people never visited Brazil or talked to many Brazilians so have very little idea how rich your country is and how deep your middle class already is.
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:37 PM
 
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Nonsense....Ireland is a huge offshore center for foreign multinationals and a lot of their economic activity does not trickle that much to the local population (just their competitive wages and some more)....saying that Ireland is wealthier than the US is beyond ridiculous.



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It doesn't matter how Ireland makes it money, just how much per capita it makes.

Ireland has an average wage of US$51000, so it's obviously making money from somewhere. If it's not making a lot from being an offshore multinational centre (as you claim), then the rest of it's economy looks even more impressive.

Has the concept of a small wealthy country, occurred to you?



United States
60,154 60,154


Ireland
51,681 56,787


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_average_wage


Of course Ireland is not a extreme case as oil exporter countries but the offshore inflates a bit his GDP
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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United States
60,154 60,154


Ireland
51,681 56,787


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_average_wage


Of course Ireland is not a extreme case as oil exporter countries but the offshore inflates a bit his GDP
+1

Even the PPP ranking is highly suspect in my opinion.

Considering that the US is a country with significant more inequality compared to Ireland the real difference for your average educated middle class is even more.....
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Old 09-14-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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United States
60,154 60,154


Ireland
51,681 56,787


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_average_wage


Of course Ireland is not a extreme case as oil exporter countries but the offshore inflates a bit his GDP
So you're comparing Ireland to the US, to show that Ireland isn't wealthy. How does Brazil tie in with any of this?

Does it matter how a country generates it's GDP?
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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+1

Even the PPP ranking is highly suspect in my opinion.

Considering that the US is a country with significant more inequality compared to Ireland the real difference for your average educated middle class is even more.....

GDP doesn't care if you're middle class or not.
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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So you're comparing Ireland to the US, to show that Ireland isn't wealthy. How does Brazil tie in with any of this?

Does it matter how a country generates it's GDP?
Of course it matter!! Just think the if Europe Union finish… Do you think these tons of offshore companies won’t go out Ireland they aren’t there for Ireland but for European market??

The same for ‘’rich’’ oil exporter or tax heavens or raw material countries dependents. Is not a genuine wealth how it is in countries of diverse and independent economy.
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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Of course it matter!! Just think the if Europe Union finish… Do you think these tons of offshore companies won’t go out Ireland they aren’t there for Ireland but for European market??

The same for ‘’rich’’ oil exporter or tax heavens or raw material countries dependents. Is not a genuine wealth how it is in countries of diverse and independent economy.
Ireland's GDP now is all that matters, not at some point in the future.

Ireland looks liking having a diverse and independent economy and it's citizens enjoy a high standard of living -not sure why the wealth it has, wouldn't be considered genuine.

Is Singapore's wealth genuine?
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:31 PM
 
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Ireland's GDP now is all that matters, not at some point in the future.

Ireland looks liking having a diverse and independent economy and it's citizens enjoy a high standard of living -not sure why the wealth it has, wouldn't be considered genuine.
Greeks thought the same
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:34 PM
 
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Greeks thought the same

Exactly...Ireland basically was imploding few years ago...
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