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View Poll Results: What do you think? Is China helping or hurting?
Overall hurting 50 60.98%
Overall helping 32 39.02%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-15-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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It might turn out to be a good news for several other african countries surrounded by french military bases.

Do you think that France is about to attack some sub Saharan African nation? No those bases are aimed to protect some unpopular dictator just as that Chinese base is.
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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Just like europeans .

And given that you wouldn't argue that the Europeans didn't exploit Africa then clearly you admit that the Chinese also do.

The fact that in both instances there might be some residual benefit doesn't negate that.

One point though. When disaster strikes, as in Central African Rep, who shows up to help the displaced? You know its not the Chinese.
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:23 PM
 
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Not that they hate white people thats because they did not see the justice from White colonization!!! do you understand????? or just being ignorant?????

I don't understand your point? Are you suggesting that because Chinese aren't white its OK if they treat the Africans the same way that you claim the Europeans did?

FACT. Chinese exhibit every bit of the racism towards Africans than Europeans do. Your silly notion that the world is divided between "evil" whites and saintly non whites doesn't wash. Those people of color who aren't black often have the same attitude towards blacks that you claim that whites have.
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Old 03-15-2014, 02:28 PM
 
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that simply your own perception.

Africans THEMSELVES are claiming that Chinese refuse to hire them. Indeed the same problem is now occurring within the Caribbean.

Is it OK for China to import unskilled workers into Africa and the Caribbean when there are many unemployed people? Of what benefit then is this Chinese investment to the ordinary African?

I know that you cant answer this question, because your response is never to indicate how China helps, but always to claim that, the Europeans did it too.

Exploitation is exploitation and the fact that the new exploiters are what you think are people of color doesn't change that fact. What will shock you is that Chinese identify way more with white people than they do with Africans.
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Old 03-15-2014, 04:02 PM
 
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Africans THEMSELVES are claiming that Chinese refuse to hire them. Indeed the same problem is now occurring within the Caribbean.

Is it OK for China to import unskilled workers into Africa and the Caribbean when there are many unemployed people? Of what benefit then is this Chinese investment to the ordinary African?

I know that you cant answer this question, because your response is never to indicate how China helps, but always to claim that, the Europeans did it too.

Exploitation is exploitation and the fact that the new exploiters are what you think are people of color doesn't change that fact. What will shock you is that Chinese identify way more with white people than they do with Africans.
This is the point that I tried to make in the begining in regards to Nigeria. The Nigerians especially the ones in certain government position do not care too much for the Chinese for that very same reason (importing their own workers). If I'm not mistaken they did the same thing in Jamaica.
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:51 PM
 
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I don't understand your point? Are you suggesting that because Chinese aren't white its OK if they treat the Africans the same way that you claim the Europeans did?

FACT. Chinese exhibit every bit of the racism towards Africans than Europeans do. Your silly notion that the world is divided between "evil" whites and saintly non whites doesn't wash. Those people of color who aren't black often have the same attitude towards blacks that you claim that whites have.
Not true at all.
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:52 PM
 
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The die has been cast. China's first airbase in Zimbabwe.
Then,what?
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:53 PM
 
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The French don't do anything anymore. They've lost their might since WWII. They are socialist and are mostly uninterested in anything close to exploitation.
That's your opinion,most africans think differently
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:55 PM
 
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Do you think that France is about to attack some sub Saharan African nation? No those bases are aimed to protect some unpopular dictator just as that Chinese base is.
What do you think french bases are in Africa for ?
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Old 07-23-2015, 03:43 AM
 
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Exploiting Africa through stealth colonization. The attractions for the Chinese are the vast natural resources as well as the potential large markets as their traditional ones shrink.

The "beads and trinkets" of the previous colonizers have been replaced by offshore bank accounts and support for their corrupt regimes.

The long term outcome is not likely to be very attractive for Africa!!
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