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Old 01-30-2015, 03:09 PM
 
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''Black people'' didn't exist back then only people from geographic locations. Its possible that the ancient Egyptians looked ''Black''

 
Old 01-31-2015, 09:23 PM
 
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''Black people'' didn't exist back then only people from geographic locations. Its possible that the ancient Egyptians looked ''Black''
"White People" didn't exist back then as well
 
Old 01-31-2015, 11:51 PM
 
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''Black people'' didn't exist back then only people from geographic locations. Its possible that the ancient Egyptians looked ''Black''
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"White People" didn't exist back then as well
These kinds of observations are mere cop outs.

"There was no race back then... 'black' is a modern construct...what is 'black'?" I have heard them all before.

The fact as I have clearly demonstrated in post two with dozens of scientific studies (and dozens more on deck) are that the Egyptians are overwhelmingly now the same people that they have always been.

TELL THAT SIMPLE TRUTH and we'll go from there. If you want to talk about whether the modern Egyptians are black...well, they largely aren't.

"Black Egypt" is a modern invention to boost the self esteem of the African American community. Ancient Egypt was not a "black civilization," it was a civilization with a minority of blacks in it, the same as America, or modern Europe for that matter.

If anyone wants to dispute that, then present EVIDENCE. Not ATTITUDE, not NUANCE, not SEMANTICS or WORD GAMES, but EVIDENCE.

Waiting.

Peace.
 
Old 02-02-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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These kinds of observations are mere cop outs.

"There was no race back then... 'black' is a modern construct...what is 'black'?" I have heard them all before.

The fact as I have clearly demonstrated in post two with dozens of scientific studies (and dozens more on deck) are that the Egyptians are overwhelmingly now the same people that they have always been.

TELL THAT SIMPLE TRUTH and we'll go from there. If you want to talk about whether the modern Egyptians are black...well, they largely aren't.

"Black Egypt" is a modern invention to boost the self esteem of the African American community. Ancient Egypt was not a "black civilization," it was a civilization with a minority of blacks in it, the same as America, or modern Europe for that matter.

http://observationdeck.io9.com/no-eg...the-1665322870

If anyone wants to dispute that, then present EVIDENCE. Not ATTITUDE, not NUANCE, not SEMANTICS or WORD GAMES, but EVIDENCE.

Waiting.

Peace.
Are you trying to say that the ancient Egyptians looked exactly the same as the Modern Egyptians? Its obvious that humans migrant constantly so peoples appearances over thousands of years change. Its possible that Ancient Egyptians looked more like ''Sub-Saharan'' Africans than Arabs and there's PROOF to back up that claim.

Contrary to popular believe, darkly pigmented people are capable of great civilisations and thought.

http://observationdeck.io9.com/no-eg...the-1665322870

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Old 02-03-2015, 03:01 PM
 
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Are you trying to say that the ancient Egyptians looked exactly the same as the Modern Egyptians?
I am not saying anything...I have linked you to over a dozen studies saying that they are essentially the same people, some of which say 90% genetically identical.

And we can repeat again and again and again...as they are different, it is because they are "blacker" due to the Arab slave trade. I have also linked you to SCIENTIFC STUDIES saying as much.

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Its obvious that humans migrant constantly so peoples appearances over thousands of years change.
But as the SCIENTIFIC STUIDIES that I have posted show, the essential ingredients were there since the stone ages. Any additions for Eurasia are counterbalanced by the Arab slave trade, the influx of Nubian mercenaries, etc. Try reading the studies instead of talking generalities.


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Its possible that Ancient Egyptians looked more like ''Sub-Saharan'' Africans than Arabs and there's PROOF to back up that claim.
There is no proof what-so-ever. All proof is the opposite. For the third time, if you have proof, post it.


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Contrary to popular believe, darkly pigmented people are capable of great civilisations and thought.
That is not what is being debated here and we will not entertain this straw man. Post your proof.

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No one said that they were white, so this is a completely meaningless addition to the conversation.

Please post scientific evidence that they were black so that I can refute it.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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simplistic and ignorant

btw not all subsaharian africans look the same

ps: egypt and its glory lasted for several thousand years, plenty of time for the region to be exposed to PLENTY of ethnic groups commonly found in the area at the time.... from phoenicians, to persians, to jews, to romans, to greeks, to nubians, to turks, to arabs, to berbers you name it

only an ignorant afrocentrist think ancient egyptians were black as in the modern term of the adjective
 
Old 02-03-2015, 04:06 PM
 
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simplistic and ignorant

btw not all subsaharian africans look the same

ps: egypt and its glory lasted for several thousand years, plenty of time for the region to be exposed to PLENTY of ethnic groups commonly found in the area at the time.... from phoenicians, to persians, to jews, to romans, to greeks, to nubians, to turks, to arabs, to berbers you name it

only an ignorant afrocentrist think ancient egyptians were black as in the modern term of the adjective
Yes, anything but Black is acceptable. Only attack the Afrocentrics. That's the agenda. Keep up the good work Irene.

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Old 02-03-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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I don't see why Europeans should be always put into an improper context.
Europeans never claimed Ancient Egypt (perhaps Ptolemaic Egypt) as a "white" civilisation nor most Europeans I know, including me, think of Egyptians as "white" or "black".
 
Old 02-03-2015, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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I don't see why Europeans should be always put into an improper context.
Europeans never claimed Ancient Egypt (perhaps Ptolemaic Egypt) as a "white" civilisation nor most Europeans I know, including me, think of Egyptians as "white" or "black".
Maybe they don't brainwash Italians as bad as other Western countries but a lot of them think that Egyptians are White.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 07:50 PM
 
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Maybe they don't brainwash Italians as bad as other Western countries but a lot of them think that Egyptians are White.
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