08-28-2013, 04:07 PM
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I have a credit issue and the only 2 places that are willing to take me are one in Canton and one in Columbus. 2 such completely different everything situations, I have no idea which to take.
Facts: Columbus
-Financially the Columbus choice initial move will be somewhat more, but manageable.
-Columbus needs a little work, a small house in North Linden area. Cute, but the yard needs cleaning and the house needs a little cleaning.
-The landlord pulled a shifty also and said that the deposit I paid was a holding fee and that I still needed to pay first month and security on top of it. I thought the deposit would be taken out of what I owed for first month and security. Plus, if I don't take it, he doesn't want to give me the deposit back, though he said he might give me some of it stating it was OH law that deposits are considered holding fees or some junk. It makes me concerned that I might have a bad situation on my hands if something goes wrong and expect them to fix it. Like they could pull another shifty or cite some other unfair policy.
-The Columbus neighborhood in the North Linden area seems to have some roughness to it, but overall being from Northeastern US cities myself, I think it's okay.
My Sticking Points: Columbus
-As far as living experience, something like the suburbs of a larger city like New York, Philly, DC or Baltimore would be ideal, which is why I'm worried I should pick Columbus.
-I've met a few people so far that have moved from Columbus to Akron/Canton. One cited safety as his reason. He said he was sitting in his apartment working on the computer and watched as his car was getting broken into while he was in school there, but he said the college is the source of most of the safety issues in Columbus. I still have to find out the other person I know, her reason for leaving Columbus for Akron/Canton, but do plan to ask her as well.
Facts: Canton
-Overall, financially Canton will be cheaper, rent-wise, expenses-wise, move-wise and has a bit more financial benefits like this.
-Canton is a managed apartment that will be cleaned and painted before my move in. Security on premises, an overall easy to deal with, ideal apartment living situation.
-The Canton apt. is in North Canton and is in a nice neighborhood I feel comfortable living in.
-My child has developmental issues and doctors think we would be fine in either place. My child is transitioning into the older child's program anyway, so it's a great time for the move either place.
My Sticking Points: Canton
-I've read so much on here that Canton (outside of Jackson Township and a few other places) sucks miserably. Jackson Township is super cool. I liked it, but this isn't Jackson Township, just a residential area in North Canton.
-I'm from the Northeast of the country and don't necessarily want the same congested traffic and city life experience, however, I don't want us to live somewhere miserable and I definitely want my little one to have a nice, fun growing up. We might move a few years from now, but if it's unnecessary and my child could have the same friends for a lifetime, that would be cool too, so I'm worried that Canton will suck for living there.
-Canton is closest to a location for some religious activities I want to be involved with, however, I could still drive back from Columbus a few times a month.
-I've read on these forums that Canton has gangs or other safety issues. Is this still relevant or was this more in 2007 to 2010?
Please tell me whatever you think is relevant in terms of safety, quality of life, neighborhood experiences etc. after reading my post.
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08-28-2013, 04:16 PM
Location: Des Moines Metro
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-Overall, financially Canton will be cheaper, rent-wise, expenses-wise, move-wise and has a bit more financial benefits like this.
I think that's hugely important. You'll be able to give your child more experiences if all of your money isn't going into rent and groceries.
If it really is the better deal financially, you could start there and put some of your money into savings. Then in a year or two, if you're unhappy, you'll have a nest egg and can maybe rent a better apartment in Columbus.
There are gangs everywhere. If you live in a neighborhood where they aren't tolerated, they will go elsewhere.
08-28-2013, 04:40 PM
Location: Youngstown, Oh.
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Are you considering an apartment on the north side of Canton, or in the city of North Canton? Though I haven't been in the area for a long time, I think there is a big difference. Some people who would prefer not to live in the city of Canton, would be OK with living in North Canton. It's more suburban/small town.
08-28-2013, 07:22 PM
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I live at Woodside apartments in Canton, I have a 3 bedroom townhouse here. Its just inside Canton, the border sign is a few roads away. It is very peaceful here, the neighbours are lovely, and all the roads nearby are great, no sign of trouble.
The rent is reasonable, that goes a long way, and the big stores are not far for good shopping etc. Its in Plain school district, which is a good district to be in.
08-28-2013, 09:08 PM
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Thank you guys for your imput.
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JR_C
Are you considering an apartment on the north side of Canton, or in the city of North Canton? Though I haven't been in the area for a long time, I think there is a big difference. Some people who would prefer not to live in the city of Canton, would be OK with living in North Canton. It's more suburban/small town.
I'm not sure. As far as I know, it's just North Canton.
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alybain
I live at Woodside apartments in Canton, I have a 3 bedroom townhouse here. Its just inside Canton, the border sign is a few roads away. It is very peaceful here, the neighbours are lovely, and all the roads nearby are great, no sign of trouble.
The rent is reasonable, that goes a long way, and the big stores are not far for good shopping etc. Its in Plain school district, which is a good district to be in.
After a search, the location can be part of the Plain School District or the Canton District according to the Ohio tax finder thing. It's been pretty peaceful both times I've gone there, much like the neighborhood you describe.
08-28-2013, 09:22 PM
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-Overall, financially Canton will be cheaper, rent-wise, expenses-wise, move-wise and has a bit more financial benefits like this.
I think that's hugely important. You'll be able to give your child more experiences if all of your money isn't going into rent and groceries.
If it really is the better deal financially, you could start there and put some of your money into savings. Then in a year or two, if you're unhappy, you'll have a nest egg and can maybe rent a better apartment in Columbus.
There are gangs everywhere. If you live in a neighborhood where they aren't tolerated, they will go elsewhere.
Yup. Finances are a huge part of this. The living situation in Canton is better in so many ways. I was just concerned about the quality of life. When coming to the location today, I found it surrounded by mostly nice properties in a generally nice area, but the first time I came from a different direction and wound up traveling through Cherry street or something at one point, and that was pretty dismal until I got 10 minutes away from the property.
However, it seems that the property is in a good area itself within a 10-20 minute driving radius, so that's probably good enough. I guess Canton just has areas that need development like many other small towns do is all.
08-29-2013, 03:01 AM
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I'm chiming in from Canton. As you noticed, there are good areas and rough ones. I'd personally rather live in a nice area of Canton than a rough area of Columbus. If your looking at North Canton, the schools are excellent. My neighborhood in Canton is two blocks from the city border. The homes are maintained, the neighbors are awesome and the nights are peaceful.... I love it. I can ride my bicycle downtown in about 10 minutes.
It's true that Canton does not offer all of the entertainment options that Columbus can. However, depending on what your into, I think you could be surprised.
- Canton has been working hard at installing greenway trails for bicycles and pedestrians, they are a nice way to get outside and be active.
- There is Sippo Lake and a Canoe livery at Ernies bicycle shop.
- Downtown Canton has First Friday events once a month. First Friday is always well attended and usually themed according to the season.
- If your are a basketball fan, Canton is home to the Charge, which are the Cleveland Cavaliers D-league team.
- Amish Country is nearby. Lots of nice little wineries to relax at.
- Tuscora park and the Lynn drive-in are both affordable, unique and just a short drive away.
Akron is a 30 minute drive and Cleveland is about one hour. What Canton lacks, we usually make up for as a region. You can easily drive to Cleveland, enjoy an evening at playhouse square, a ball game or whatever and drive back the same day. Cedar Point is nearby too, that is ALWAYS fun!
08-29-2013, 03:08 AM
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You mentioned Cherry Ave. Yes, that is a blighted area of downtown. It's unfortunate because it's a heavily traveled street. Even so, downtown as a whole has been greatly improved over the last decade. The main stretch is market ave. It seems like new development is working it's way towards Cherry, but not enough to really make a visible impact yet. Recently Walnut ave (one block from Cherry) got new sidewalks, lamp post and bicycle lanes. A new Deli opened it's doors on Walnut (Deil Ohio) and it's got some delicious food.
08-29-2013, 07:31 AM
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After a search, the location can be part of the Plain School District or the Canton District according to the Ohio tax finder thing. It's been pretty peaceful both times I've gone there, much like the neighborhood you describe.
all I know is that the kids in by block of townhouses go to Plain schools.
I have lived in Canton a month now, we moved here from the UK, and had never been to this part of town before, so I know how it can be moving somewhere unknown, but I have been really surprised and relieved to find this area is so nice!
08-29-2013, 09:03 AM
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Canton has some really nice areas especially the suburbs. You have shopping at belden village Cleveland is less than an hour away if you need things there. Akron is close.
Yes Columbus is a great growing town. But if you are living in a bad area of it then forget it!
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Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)