[mainegirl]

Originally Posted by TheJagMan

Interesting augruement...Not whether or not you find the Confederate flag offensive, but if you did find something offensive, such as a Nazi flag on american grave, does anyone have the right to remove it?

I would think not from someone else's grave or property that felt strongly about the flag and what it represents.

[elston]

The cemetery is owned and maintained by the city of Auburn...(Public property maintained by tax payers money) it is not private property and there are restriction on placing anything on any grave which could be offensive to the appearance of the surrounding lots or grounds.

From the little research I did however that determination should be made by the City of Auburn and the removal of any and all offensive objects should be done by the Sup. of Cemeteries. So the councilman was wrong to do it himself....but there is no right for any one or any person to put what so ever they please on any grave. The rules state that you cannot even put a teddy bear or toy on a grave.

[Alatex]

The cemetery is owned and maintained by the city of Auburn...(Public property maintained by tax payers money) it is not private property

Thank you for the clarification.

The only cemeteries I've ever had any dealings with (where my parents, grandparents, and so on are buried) are private.

[southernnaturelover]

Originally Posted by elston

The cemetery is owned and maintained by the city of Auburn...(Public property maintained by tax payers money) it is not private property and there are restriction on placing anything on any grave which could be offensive to the appearance of the surrounding lots or grounds.

From the little research I did however that determination should be made by the City of Auburn and the removal of any and all offensive objects should be done by the Sup. of Cemeteries. So the councilman was wrong to do it himself....but there is no right for any one or any person to put what so ever they please on any grave. The rules state that you cannot even put a teddy bear or toy on a grave.

Most tax payers in Alabama don't see the Confederate flag as an "offensive object".

[elston]

Originally Posted by southernnaturelover

Most tax payers in Alabama don't see the Confederate flag as an "offensive object".

I realize that. That is the problem.

They didnt change the constitution to allow inter racial couples to marry until 9 years ago....and that vote was 40 to 60% even though the federal laws made such discrimination illegal.

[RedEagle]

Well, here we go again.

I've never cared for the flag and don't care what they do with it. But, if someone went into a cemetary and took something that I'd placed on a relative's grave, there'd be a brand new civil war I swear.

As far as the slavery issue goes, I'm sure a lot of the politicians that passed the motions for secession were slave owners, but 99% of the guys who did the fighting were not. Do you really think they were fighting for those rights? I doubt it.

[southernnaturelover]

Originally Posted by elston

I realize that. That is the problem.

They didnt change the constitution to allow inter racial couples to marry until 9 years ago....and that vote was 40 to 60% even though the federal laws made such discrimination illegal.

It's a "problem" to you, not to most of us who live here.

[southernnaturelover]

Originally Posted by RedEagle

if someone went into a cemetary and took something that I'd placed on a relative's grave, there'd be a brand new civil war I swear.

Same here. If I were to walk past a grave with Nation of Islam symbol on it I would shake my head and keep walking. You just don't touch other peoples stuff.

[XXclimberX]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

Very few Southerners owned slaves.

Lincoln did not free the slaves because he thought it was wrong.

During the war, he freed the slaves in certain states, in order to insure anarchy and to cripple them.

Had he believed slavery was wrong, he would have freed them before any war.

Both Grant and Lee knew the war was not fought over slavery. Slavery was on its way out with mechanization around the bend.

The war simply was not fought over slavery. It was fought over tariffs and differences of government.

Thats like saying WW2 was not fought over jews. The nazi flag still represents repression and violence. Same goes for the bars and stars.

[southernnaturelover]

Originally Posted by XXclimberX

Thats like saying WW2 was not fought over jews. The nazi flag still represents repression and violence. Same goes for the bars and stars.

Um, you're in Canada, I don't think you need to be worrying about what goes on in Alabama.