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Or more likely, you simply don't know what you're talking about. If you want to see studies, go ask your writer friends in academia to sit in their ivory towers and conduct a few. I live in the real world; I know hundreds of Argentines from every different background. I live here. I have 50 family members who live here. I know exactly what it's like. Don't try to tell me what I know, dude.
I love this argument, "I've stayed there more than you, therefore, my opinion is intrinsecally more accurate than yours."
I've lived in Argentina all my 32 years, I lived in a neighbourhood which is not exactly the best, and due to my job I had the opportunity to travel throughout the country (and I'm really thankful of it), including the most remote towns in Chaco or the most isolated settlements in Tierra del Fuego. Hence, I hold a more precise vision on the reality of the country.
Mysterious Benefactor either doesn't live in ARgentina, or is not being sincere. Why would anyone live in another country being so afraid about his/her security and wellbeing?
I've not been victimized myself, but virtually everyone I know has. I've been here for almost 3 years now, and I'm not uncomfortable. I live in a smaller city now, and among other reasons, the crime problem is why I'd never live in BA again, or any of the larger cities. Despite the problems, I happen to like it here.
And the last part of your question reveals not only naivete, but a complete lack of understanding of the problem. You seem to think that mobility is nothing but a matter of choice. That's like asking someone "Hey, if you don't like the traffic in LA or the summers in Houston, why do you stay there?" You need to realize that Argentines have accepted that crime and the fear of it are just part of their daily lives. It's all many have known.
You aren't Argentine, so why stay in a country you apparently hate? And what is this small time you say you stay in?
If the country is so awful, there is no reason for you to stay.
Well, I don't consider Argentines "white". In order for me to elaborate, as we were in danger of doing earlier, we would have to veer well off-topic.
This is BS. People of Spanish and Italian descent are white. Obviously not every single person in Argentina is white, but the majority of people from Argentina are WHITE, as in obviously MEDITERRANEAN European!
Mysterious Benefactor either doesn't live in ARgentina, or is not being sincere. Why would anyone live in another country being so afraid about his/her security and wellbeing?
Yeah. He's just trolling. Got dumped by an Argentine girlfriend or something.
And is in a mysterious small town he can't name, because Argentines on this forum might be able to say something about said town.
I love this argument, "I've stayed there more than you, therefore, my opinion is intrinsecally more accurate than yours."
I've lived in Argentina all my 32 years, I lived in a neighbourhood which is not exactly the best, and due to my job I had the opportunity to travel throughout the country (and I'm really thankful of it), including the most remote towns in Chaco or the most isolated settlements in Tierra del Fuego. Hence, I hold a more precise vision on the reality of the country.
Nah, it's not what it works like.
I never made that argument. My point was, and remains, that the fear of crime is very real here. But because I haven't cited studies for him, writerdude doesn't want to accept it. And to bolster his argument, he claims to know a few Argentines and they never mentioned it. It certainly doesn't work like that.
I understand you're proud of your country(as you should be), but if you've been in Argentina your whole life, then you can't honestly deny what I'm saying is true.
Mysterious Benefactor either doesn't live in ARgentina, or is not being sincere. Why would anyone live in another country being so afraid about his/her security and wellbeing?
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Originally Posted by NyWriterdude
You aren't Argentine, so why stay in a country you apparently hate? And what is this small time you say you stay in?
If the country is so awful, there is no reason for you to stay.
You guys aren't paying attention. In my previous post, I included both of these sentences:
"I've been here for almost 3 years now, and I'm not uncomfortable. Despite the problems, I happen to like it here."
I never said the country is awful; it isn't. I like Argentina, but that doesn't prevent me from seeing the problems that do exist, and being honest about them.
Yeah. He's just trolling. Got dumped by an Argentine girlfriend or something.
And is in a mysterious small town he can't name, because Argentines on this forum might be able to say something about said town.
You guys are obviously welcome to believe whatever you like, it doesn't really matter to me. There's nothing mysterious about the city I live in, the name of it is Salta. It's a "smaller city" though, not a small town. But if you think I'm just trolling, surely you both must have better things to do than to keep posting.
I was speaking of the more affluent suburbs. I don't think they were being plagued with the amount of crime, even in the 70s, as similar neighborhoods in BA today.
I understand also you were speaking of the more affluent suburbs in New Jersey, Long Island, etc.
Seems to me that the amount of fear of crime in NYC neighbourhoods (though not the affluent suburbs) in the 1970s was about the same as the amount of fear of crime in BA city and suburbs these days?
I never made that argument. My point was, and remains, that the fear of crime is very real here. But because I haven't cited studies for him, writerdude doesn't want to accept it. And to bolster his argument, he claims to know a few Argentines and they never mentioned it. It certainly doesn't work like that.
I understand you're proud of your country(as you should be), but if you've been in Argentina your whole life, then you can't honestly deny what I'm saying is true.
Because any troll on the internet can make any claims and I have no proof you're in or have been to Argentina.
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