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Old 12-18-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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The only place where I have seen some people offended by the word "mulatto" is in the USA and basically in the English language. I did noticed that the word is written with a double T, the way is spelled in English.

The word "mulato" is not offensive by itself in the Spanish language. Its not offensive now and it never was offensive. Even in Spanish dictionaries the word isn't depicted as offensive, unlike other truly offensive words.

Case in point:

A non-offensive word

vs

An offensive word (notice the word 'despect.' which stands for despectivo or offensive). The second word describes a gay person, but more often than not the word by itself is offensive.

I think the real reason some people from the USA are offended by it is due to the one-drop-rule, given that I have yet to meet someone that considers that word to be offensive and they themselves don't believe in and apply to themselves the one-drop-rule. Its a way of discouraging mixed black-white people from using that word as a description, in preference of the word black.

Notice I mentioned SOME people, because obviously there are many people that aren't offended by that word in the USA.

Well.. Yes, offensive as he'll for light jabaos or whites with hard hair. The origin. MULADI.. Christian origin Muslims.. Bad..
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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MULADI or mulatto is just a.descriptive..but..
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:18 PM
 
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The only place where I have seen some people offended by the word "mulatto" is in the USA and basically in the English language. I did noticed that the word is written with a double T, the way is spelled in English.

The word "mulato" is not offensive by itself in the Spanish language. Its not offensive now and it never was offensive. Even in Spanish dictionaries the word isn't depicted as offensive, unlike other truly offensive words.

Case in point:

A non-offensive word

vs

An offensive word (notice the word 'despect.' which stands for despectivo or offensive). The second word describes a gay person, but more often than not the word by itself is offensive.

I think the real reason some people from the USA are offended by it is due to the one-drop-rule, given that I have yet to meet someone that considers that word to be offensive and they themselves don't believe in and apply to themselves the one-drop-rule. Its a way of discouraging mixed black-white people from using that word as a description, in preference of the word black.

Notice I mentioned SOME people, because obviously there are many people that aren't offended by that word in the USA.
I have the price of the slave auction market of Havana. Nobody said African. NEGRO BOZAL O DE NACIÓN CARABALI.. CONGO.. Mulattoes were Negro DE Casa, criollos, very expensive. Negrito criollito bronce, very expensive.. Etc.
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Old 12-18-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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In the US Mulattoes, either French, Spanish or English became Creoles. They were ricn and free under Spain and France.

They were tne free people of color, Spanish blacks, ancienne population, professionals, all had white relatives. In fact, at that time, before the American invasion, 1824, a creole was somebody born in the New world.

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Old 12-18-2019, 04:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by AntonioR View Post
The only place where I have seen some people offended by the word "mulatto" is in the USA and basically in the English language. I did noticed that the word is written with a double T, the way is spelled in English.

The word "mulato" is not offensive by itself in the Spanish language. Its not offensive now and it never was offensive. Even in Spanish dictionaries the word isn't depicted as offensive, unlike other truly offensive words.

Case in point:

A non-offensive word

vs

An offensive word (notice the word 'despect.' which stands for despectivo or offensive). The second word describes a gay person, but more often than not the word by itself is offensive.

I think the real reason some people from the USA are offended by it is due to the one-drop-rule, given that I have yet to meet someone that considers that word to be offensive and they themselves don't believe in and apply to themselves the one-drop-rule. Its a way of discouraging mixed black-white people from using that word as a description, in preference of the word black.

Notice I mentioned SOME people, because obviously there are many people that aren't offended by that word in the USA.
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If someone wants to refer to themselves as mixed race in the US context they would say biracial or multiracial.

But part of the problem is you cannot necessarily tell the difference between so called mixed race people and Black people.

If it kills you to be called Black based on how you look them there is something wrong with you that you need to work out with a therapist.

As for the one drop rule, Johnny Depp has a Black ancestor. So does Heather Locklear. No one is calling these people Black because they look white, group up white, and are white. Yet noticed they don’t have to say that they are mixed, either. They’re white.

It’s the ultimate in race obsession if you have to jump up and down to de late yourself mixes because you are ashamed of being Black. Most Blacks throughout North and South America are mixed and large numbers of Africans have Arab and/or European in them.

So what? Who gives a crap?

No one gives a flying frig what you are.

But back to mulato, you know very well it is not used in the Spanish speaking world these days. It’s archaic.

In Cuba you must not call mulatto to a wide array of people....Blacks love to do it, which is fun.

Mulato is used extensively. Mulato etc also popular.
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Old 12-19-2019, 07:21 PM
 
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In the US Mulattoes, either French, Spanish or English became Creoles. They were ricn and free under Spain and France.

They were tne free people of color, Spanish blacks, ancienne population, professionals, all had white relatives. In fact, at that time, before the American invasion, 1824, a creole was somebody born in the New world.
Not necessarily true, and real no different than the English colonies.

A slaveowner could chose to free his mixed race child and leave them money. But this wasn't just in the French or Spanish colonies, this happened in the United States with English owners as well.

The entire institution behind it was pretty horrible, and saying that everyone is mixed is just an attempt to gloss over how horrible the history is.

Notice we don't hear much about the Natives in this mix, because they had been killed off mostly, or weren't around in big enough numbers to be used in Louisiana plantations.
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Old 12-19-2019, 09:49 PM
 
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In the US Mulattoes, either French, Spanish or English became Creoles. They were ricn and free under Spain and France.

They were tne free people of color, Spanish blacks, ancienne population, professionals, all had white relatives. In fact, at that time, before the American invasion, 1824, a creole was somebody born in the New world.
There is still distinct Creole culture in Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, and South Alabama.

There's a distinct food, music, and old Creoles still speak Louisiana Creole (blend of French, Spanish, and African languages).

It's interesting that you know about Creoles, often people don't know about ethnic differences between African Americans in the South. The people on the coast of Georgia and the Carolinas are Gullahs. They speak an English Creole language like the people on the Islands.
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Old 12-21-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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There is still distinct Creole culture in Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, and South Alabama.

There's a distinct food, music, and old Creoles still speak Louisiana Creole (blend of French, Spanish, and African languages).

It's interesting that you know about Creoles, often people don't know about ethnic differences between African Americans in the South. The people on the coast of Georgia and the Carolinas are Gullahs. They speak an English Creole language like the people on the Islands.
Yes sir there is! I'm Creole and proud of it.

Just to further split hairs though, I have to add that not all Creoles are mixed-race. We're French and Spanish ancestry Creoles, with some Native American DNA...although that sliver of indigenous ancestry might have come from French settlers in Canada marrying with indigenous women (that culture is called the Metis..see that root word like "mestizo"?) and then the next generations making their way down to Louisiana.

Many people will ONLY use the word Louisiana Creole to talk about people with mixed racial ancestry, but the truest definition of the word is any person whose family was born during the French or Spain colonial days of Louisiana, prior to it being a part of the US. Most of us are a glorious mix of French, African, Spanish and Indigenous (usually in that order of % of ancestry). I hope that as time goes on, the different groups (like them and the Cajuns) come together and find more common ground.
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Old 12-21-2019, 10:12 AM
 
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Louisian has quite an interesting history.
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:08 PM
 
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Here we go again with the narrow minded Anglo-perspective.

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Negrito but not blanquito. Why? Jokes about how blacks look but not about how whites look? Why?


And yes we know about what happens on Spanish TV programming. I have seen it with my own eyes and am astonished that in the 21st century this was still happening.


Here is the deal. English speaking blacks aren't brainwashed to accept what ever little trivial box that others wish to place us in. We aren't expected to laugh when others make fun of us. If we are made fun of we will make fun of others.


If this makes us bad people in your eyes well that is your issue.


And yes I have spoken to Latin American black identified people on this issue.
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