Miracles and Atheism

[rifleman]

Originally Posted by ShepsMom

I am yet to hear about a miracle that actually a miracle and really have no explanation on why, or how it might have happened.

These below, are typical miracles that contributed to divine intervention:

Plane crash with everyone surviving: Miracle ?
Patient with a cancer getting recovered: Miracle?
Baby being born: Miracle?
I prayed, phone rang, I got a job: Miracle?
And so on and on....

How any of those are miracles? Please explain?

Now, may be we're confusing miracle with a "supernatural"? What is supernatural? I would like to hear about supernatural encounters from the first hand. Anyone on this board have experience with supernatural encounter? Please share...

what would I consider a valid miracle, ShepsMom?

Lessee: the wings & fuselage parts of that Airbus from Brazil reassembling themselves as it fluttered towards the cold, bleak ocean, the engines restarting and the passengers seeing and photographing it and then flying off to land safely, the whole thing recorded by a passing military recon jet, all on tape.

The World Trade Towers halting mid-collapse and re-establishing their engineering integrity, restored to their undamaged condition, with no-one injured.

A still-born baby with major fetal compromises restructuring right there in the delivery room, and turning out completely OK.

A person maimed in a fatal head-on car crash getting up, healing visibly in say ten seconds, and saying "Hey! that was fun! Let's do it again, huh God?"

That really lovely (& hot, BTW) blonde I truly, truly loved dearly in my first year of University actually noticing & loving me back: (that would have been a true miracle, SMom... what should I have done different? I suppose that's for a different thread, huh. Sob. It still hurts, and God never even lifted a hand to help!")

[ShepsMom]

Originally Posted by rifleman

what would I consider a valid miracle, ShepsMom?

Lessee: the wings & fuselage parts of that Airbus from Brazil reassembling themselves as it fluttered towards the cold, bleak ocean, the engines restarting and the passengers seeing and photographing it and then flying off to land safely, the whole thing recorded by a passing military recon jet, all on tape.

The World Trade Towers halting mid-collapse and re-establishing their engineering integrity, restored to their undamaged condition, with no-one injured.

A still-born baby with major fetal compromises restructuring right there in the delivery room, and turning out completely OK.

A person maimed in a fatal head-on car crash getting up, healing visibly in say ten seconds, and saying "Hey! that was fun! Let's do it again, huh God?"

That really lovely (& hot, BTW) blonde I truly, truly loved dearly in my first year of University actually noticing & loving me back: (that would have been a true miracle, SMom... what should I have done different? I suppose that's for a different thread, huh. Sob. It still hurts, and God never even lifted a hand to help!")

Are those really miracles? Blond loving you back, that's a miracle? I'm sure it has something to do with your personal attributes she founded attractive.

Did anyone actually investigate how, why, and what cause for those on the crashed plane to survive? Of course not, it's so much easier to say 'God did it' then anything else.

At some point, rainbow was a miracle.
And I might add that invention of diaper is a miracle on it's own.