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Nor do I find it particularly relevant to my life. What I will not do is claim to know something for which I have no evidence, because that would be a false representation of reality.
No.....it's called faith. You've got 2 arguments. Only 2. Until you can prove a 3rd reasonably, not believing in either of the other 2 is comparable to worshipng the flying spaghetti monster.
Only two arguements, because YOU say so? You, who claim to know that you are not god or in a position to be his spokesperson?
You are sinning again. Lying is s sin, according to you. You flip-flop, reverse directions, attempt to change meanings or ignore what is uncomfortable for you.
It is not called faith, it is called pigheaded lies.
My guess is you can't. You're not thinking rational.
3 theories, off the top of my head:
1. Blackhole collapsed on itself, causing the big bang.
2. An empty universe is inherently unstable, which created energy, which eventually created mass.
3. Maybe matter, and energy, in some form, always existed - (just like you claim somehow that a supernatural God always existed) For some reason, it all collapsed on itself, and then BANG!
None of those three theories is likely true. Yet each of them are more likely than a magical invisible diety poofed everything into existance.
(Also, why do you say that it's impossible for everything to have always existed, but not impossilbe for your God to have always existed? It seems like, if you believe everything in existance must logially have had a creator, then both would be equally unlikely. If you carve out an exception for God, you should carve out the same exception for regular energy and matter.)
Well, I certainly think that assuming the endless universe around us and everything therein just happened by chance, is kinda foolish. I can tell just by experiencing things that chance or luck isn't going to produce consciousness or an entire existence. So yes basically there is a God, but why he'd put a plane or existence right here I don't know.
Well, I certainly think that assuming the endless universe around us and everything therein just happened by chance, is kinda foolish. I can tell just by experiencing things that chance or luck isn't going to produce consciousness or an entire existence. So yes basically there is a God, but why he'd put a plane or existence right here I don't know.
Where do theists keep getting this weird idea that it 'just happened' if there was no divine intervention. Atheism doesn't claim it 'just happened.' It says that we don't know how the universe began. Saying a magic man did it doesn't answer anything and there is no evidence to support it. There is no reason to believe your claim that a magic man tiddly winked the universe into existence, unless you can empirically prove he did. You can't though, therefore god is an invalid argument. Only fools claim to believe they know the unknown. Atheists don't claim to know the unknown, theists claim to know how the universe began, although they give neither reason nor evidence to substantiate their beliefs. All they give is opinion and flawed logic. If someone wants to believe the fairytale, then they can go right ahead, but it is foolish to claim that it is based on logic and evidence.
Well, I certainly think that assuming the endless universe around us and everything therein just happened by chance, is kinda foolish. I can tell just by experiencing things that chance or luck isn't going to produce consciousness or an entire existence. So yes basically there is a God, but why he'd put a plane or existence right here I don't know.
If you think there is a God, how did he get here? By your logic, there must necessarily have been a God before him, right?
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