Real talk about sprawl (Atlanta, Macon: contractors, quality of life, living in)

[architect77]

At some point the term sprawl doesn't apply to development that's 50 miles or more from the core city. I do believe that low density is inherent for people to enjoy the South's abundant trees and available land.

But when I recently stopped to eat at a Hardees on I-85 somewhere between the Mall of Georgia and Commerce, I was very disappointed to see all of the growth repeating the same mistakes. Nothing is walkable, huge parking lots in front of more and more strip malls, fast food restaurants over 1000 ft from one another. When you're developing former virgin countryside with brand new development, you can create much more efficient land use even if it's still car-centric. They could do much better.

[Onthemove2014]

Originally Posted by SLIMMACKEY

For the record that is supply and demand...come on man...this is trivial.

What are you talking about? Who said it wasn't?

[cqholt]

Smart growth developments like your example are expensive, why would developers want that, when small towns will take an development they can get.

[Onthemove2014]

Originally Posted by SLIMMACKEY

So you do see where I say that the personal(intrinsic) value of something has little to do with its true economic value right? If all you had was 40K to spend and the GM was 30K and Benz 40K im sure the economics of the choice excluding personal preference would make the decision pretty much a no brainer. But hey, to each his own...

You don't sound like you don't have a good grasp of what makes something worth any amount of money. You think there is some rules that says paying 30k for GM is a better value then paying 40k for a Benz? If that is the case you are missing out on the basic foundation that economics is based on. Here is a hint: it isn't dollar amounts/cost.

[SLIMMACKEY]

Originally Posted by Onthemove2014

What are you talking about? Who said it wasn't?

Thats a defined principle of economics; not the whole of economics. Thats what I was tallking about....what were you talkin about??

[SLIMMACKEY]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Smart growth developments like your example are expensive, why would developers want that, when small towns will take an development they can get.

True...true....

[SLIMMACKEY]

Originally Posted by Onthemove2014

You don't sound like you don't have a good grasp of what makes something worth any amount of money. You think there is some rules that says paying 30k for GM is a better value then paying 40k for a Benz? If that is the case you are missing out on the basic foundation that economics is based on. Here is a hint: it isn't dollar amounts/cost.

I surely did. If it is not an emotional purchase then it is an economical one. And if the need is a car then economically in every way I decribed, the GM is a better choice. You pay a premium price for a premium product which is mainly for status/personal pleasure. They both get byou from A to B. An Iphone or Motorola Flip? They both serve the main purpose of what a phone does...make and receive calls. All that other stuff is Lagniappe. Thats why there are different pricepoints for consumables dude....really??? You dont get that?? And I for one dont have to prove anything to you about my economic or dollar stretching prowess but please check my prolfile. I work in Manhattan makin long money but planted roots in the ATL where the cost of living is more affordable. How is that for stretching a dollar??

Please start another thread and I will gladly partake in an economical debate with you.

Once again let me do ATLANTAGREG's job and say move on....

[Onthemove2014]

Originally Posted by SLIMMACKEY

I surely did. If it is not an emotional purchase then it is an economical one. And if the need is a car then economically in every way I decribed, the GM is a better choice. You pay a premium price for a premium product which is mainly for status/personal pleasure. They both get byou from A to B. An Iphone or Motorola Flip? They both serve the main purpose of what a phone does...make and receive calls. All that other stuff is Lagniappe.
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You can't interchange the terms "economical" with " economic value". Those are two separate things.

One deals with getting more for your money or spending less, the other deals with demand for the product. Two separate meanings.

Originally Posted by SLIMMACKEY

Thats why there are different pricepoints for consumables dude....really??? You dont get that?
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I get why things are priced differently. You don't seem to know the difference between "economical" and "economic value".

Originally Posted by SLIMMACKEY

? And I for one dont have to prove anything to you about my economic or dollar stretching prowess but please check my prolfile. I work in Manhattan makin long money but planted roots in the ATL where the cost of living is more affordable. How is that for stretching a dollar??
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You could be Donald Trump for all I care. You suck at definitions and that seems to be the issue.

[SLIMMACKEY]

Originally Posted by Onthemove2014

You can't interchange the terms "economical" with " economic value". Those are two separate things.

One deals with getting more for your money or spending less, the other deals with demand for the product. Two separate meanings.



I get why things are priced differently. You don't seem to know the difference between "economical" and "economic value".

Nonsense



You could be Donald Trump for all I care. You suck at definitions and that seems to be the issue.

Please, dont insult me like that....


You suck at Understanding...but it doesnt bother me one bit. I am however sorry that you decided to take it personal . So therefore I digress...a wise man once told me to not argue with fools...and this little tiff I believe makes both of us look like the latter; you for your reasons and me for entertaining so once again, let me invoke ATLGREG...

[Economicsman]

This SLIMMACKEY guy is confused or ignorant. Value is not the same as economical.