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Old 03-05-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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So why is it such a shock to people that this move will cause the Braves to lose urban fans and gain suburban fans?
I was referring to the people who are angry that the Braves will "no longer be part of Atlanta," not the ones who won't go to games because they're inconvenient... the latter is a logistical problem that makes perfect sense.

And yes, the OTP people who complain about ITP are just as bad... AJC's comments will show that for every "ignorant backwoods redneck who drives to the Cheesecake Factory" there's a "liberal gay-loving socialist who rides the nanny state train." Fortunately in both places the majority of people don't care... it's just that the Internet seems to attract all the ones who do
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Sure, but I don't get why you feel that moving to the intersection of I-285 and I-75 changes that. The "Atlanta" area has always been much more than just the city itself. Anywhere in the metro is "Atlanta" and especially for something regional like a sports franchise.

You're acting like the Braves are moving to Charlotte, instead of 12 miles up the road. This should be a non-issue. I honestly and sincerely do not understand your point.
The difference is this.

The Atlanta Braves
or
The "Atlanta" Braves


I've explained over and over again that my and many people's connection to the Braves is Atlanta. If its moved from Atlanta to "Atlanta", it makes it hard to really care about them. Its not the cities team anymore, its a regional team.
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I've explained over and over again that my and many people's connection to the Braves is Atlanta. If its moved from Atlanta to "Atlanta", it makes it hard to really care about them. Its not the cities team anymore, its a regional team.
So you'd still go if the new stadium was built a couple miles farther south on Cobb Parkway, but not if it was built a couple miles from Turner Field on the other side of Moreland? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Sure, but I don't get why you feel that moving to the intersection of I-285 and I-75 changes that. The "Atlanta" area has always been much more than just the city itself. Anywhere in the metro is "Atlanta" and especially for something regional like a sports franchise.

You're acting like the Braves are moving to Charlotte, instead of 12 miles up the road. This should be a non-issue. I honestly and sincerely do not understand your point.
At the current location, I can ride my bike from home. There is no way to safely ride a bike to Cumberland. That is why I have distaste for the move.
All this BS about its 1/2 from city limits or its got an Atlanta postal code means nothing. The new location is accessible by only 1 mode of transportation, cars. Its like the Braves organization cares nothing of those who can't or chooses not to own a car. What about all the employees that relied on MARTA to get to their job?
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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The difference is this.

The Atlanta Braves
or
The "Atlanta" Braves


I've explained over and over again that my and many people's connection to the Braves is Atlanta. If its moved from Atlanta to "Atlanta", it makes it hard to really care about them. Its not the cities team anymore, its a regional team.
So I guess using your thinking, we should rename the airport to the "College Park International Airport" or the "Clayton County International Airport"...huh?

The Atlanta Motor Speedway should be renamed to the "Hampton Racetrack" while the Atlanta Dragway should be the "Commerce Dragway" and Road Atlanta is now the "Brazelton Racing Track" or something like that.

Many sports teams do not play within the technical limits of the anchor city in the metro area where they are located. In NY, the Jets and Giants don't even play in the same state. The SF 49ers, Dallas Cowboys, LA Angels, and others play in the metro area but outside the city limits.

A team is supported by its fan base, which is always more than the city itself. In Atlanta the city population is but 10% of the metro. The Braves have always been a regional team, and in some ways were a national team when TBS carried them nationally.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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So I guess using your thinking, we should rename the airport to the "College Park International Airport" or the "Clayton County International Airport"...huh?
NO, the city of Atlanta owns the land HJIA is on and operates the airport. They could name it Elbow Room Int'l Airport if they wanted because they own and operate it. Get your facts straight before bring lame argument points.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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At the current location, I can ride my bike from home. There is no way to safely ride a bike to Cumberland. That is why I have distaste for the move.
All this BS about its 1/2 from city limits or its got an Atlanta postal code means nothing. The new location is accessible by only 1 mode of transportation, cars. Its like the Braves organization cares nothing of those who can't or chooses not to own a car. What about all the employees that relied on MARTA to get to their job?
As was pointed out by another poster, there is a huge difference between "the new location is inconvenient and I will be less likely to attend games" and "the new stadium is just outside the city limit, so now the team is dead to me because it's no longer in Atlanta" as one poster seems to feel.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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NO, the city of Atlanta owns the land HJIA is on and operates the airport. They could name it Elbow Room Int'l Airport if they wanted because they own and operate it. Get your facts straight before bring lame argument points.
The airport is not within the city limits, correct? They may "own the land" but that land is not part of the city of Atlanta...correct?

And the "lame arguments" are by delusional people who can't get past their delusional hatred of the suburbs.
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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NO, the city of Atlanta owns the land HJIA is on and operates the airport. They could name it Elbow Room Int'l Airport if they wanted because they own and operate it. Get your facts straight before bring lame argument points.
Hartsfield

The airport is located mostly in unincorporated areas in Fulton and Clayton counties. However, the airport spills into the city limits of Atlanta, College Park, and Hapeville.

Sorry, I meant "Hapeville Airport"
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Old 03-05-2014, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Orange Blossom Trail
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At the current location, I can ride my bike from home. There is no way to safely ride a bike to Cumberland. That is why I have distaste for the move.
All this BS about its 1/2 from city limits or its got an Atlanta postal code means nothing. The new location is accessible by only 1 mode of transportation, cars. Its like the Braves organization cares nothing of those who can't or chooses not to own a car. What about all the employees that relied on MARTA to get to their job?
But cqholt many people have that opinion about non car owners. Not just the braves.
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