Dekalb Ave. overhaul planned (utilities, expense, build)

[bu2]

Originally Posted by arjay57

What are our main east-west bike lane corridors? Seems like DeKalb would have been a great choice for this.

The Stone Mountain Trail runs partly along DeKalb and then moves up to Freedom Parkway.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by arjay57

What are our main east-west bike lane corridors? Seems like DeKalb would have been a great choice for this.

There are also plans to complete a trail (not necessarily all a "bike" trail, but "bikable") running from Medlock to Peachtree Creek in Brookhaven. Several segments exist.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by bu2

There are also plans to complete a trail (not necessarily all a "bike" trail, but "bikable") running from Medlock to Peachtree Creek in Brookhaven. Several segments exist.

This includes the Mason Mill trail? Very nice, we have hiked it many a time.

However, as I understand it the bike folks want to ride on the street, not on multi-use trails.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by arjay57

This includes the Mason Mill trail? Very nice, we have hiked it many a time.

However, as I understand it the bike folks want to ride on the street, not on multi-use trails.

Yes. Mason Mill. I believe there is a dirt trail from Druid Hills MS to Medlock Park. At Medlock Park the Mason Mill Trail starts. They just completed a section of trail at Emory on Clairmont, down the street from Mason Mill. There's a walkable, but maybe not bikeable dirt trail on the north side of the creek over to Houston Mill and Hahn Woods. Eventually that is supposed to be improved and connect over to the Zoolite Park trails and those trails will connect over to the existing trails along the creek near I-85.

[cqholt]

DeKalb Avenue is unique in that it is relatively flat and easily navigable on bike, scooter, or foot. Moreover, it links four MARTA rail stations, making it an ideal route for the critical first-mile/last-mile connectivity to transit. It is also wholly owned by the City of Atlanta with no competing jurisdictional priorities from the state or federal government. And DeKalb Avenue connects 11 intown neighborhoods, making it an ideal test case for how streets can serve to connect people, not just move cars.

https://saportareport.com/its-time-t...dekalb-avenue/
Local architecture, planning, development firm created this tactical improvement plan or DeKalb Ave: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jh6mxbeu5j...%20sm.pdf?dl=0

[red92s]

Originally Posted by cqholt

https://saportareport.com/its-time-t...dekalb-avenue/
Local architecture, planning, development firm created this tactical improvement plan or DeKalb Ave: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jh6mxbeu5j...%20sm.pdf?dl=0

To clarify, this plan requires giving up the center turn lane between major intersections, correct? So any eastbound traffic trying to turn left at a non-signalized intersection will still gridlock everything? And requires widening existing curb to curb widths at nearly every signalized intersection to accommodate both dedicated left turns and the proposed bike infrastructure?

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by red92s

To clarify, this plan requires giving up the center turn lane between major intersections, correct? And requires widening existing curb to curb widths at nearly every signalized intersection to accommodate both dedicated left turns and the proposed bike infrastructure?

Did you look at the tactical improvements?

[red92s]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Did you look at the tactical improvements?

Yes. I don't what is"tactical" about relocating stormwater infrastructure and widening the total roadway width at every signalized intersection. Folks are trying to spin this as something that can be done with some paint and brightly colored plastic planters. It's not. It's still a large and expensive undertaking.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by red92s

Yes. I don't what is"tactical" about relocating stormwater infrastructure and widening the total roadway width at every signalized intersection. Folks are trying to spin this as something that can be done with some paint and brightly colored plastic planters. It's not. It's still a large and expensive undertaking.

This would not be a repeat of W Howard, oh how the NIMBYs like to bash that project but it has worked. Vehicle speeds are down to the speed limit and pedestrian crossings are safer.
This is using the unused ROW between the curb and MARTA retaining wall at 3 intersections to build out a safe, multimodal corridor.

[arjay57]

What would a cross section of DeKalb look like under the latest version of the plan?

I'm in favor of giving the bicyclists their own lane but you will still need a left turn lane for vehicles.