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Old 04-07-2008, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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You mean liberal cities like Minneapolis,Seattle,San Francisco,Portland?And why is Atlanta sucking up all the tax dollars when it brings in the most revenue and jobs?I can agree if you say extremism is ruining the country but it seems you are more on one side than the other.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:38 AM
 
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I'm from the Northeast, and I've thought about the effect that an increased amount of Northerners could have on the balance between republicans/democrats in the state, since Georgia has been historically a red state. What do you think, will Georgia possibly elect a democrat this year? The inner metro ATL is blue on the election maps. With the growth of metro ATL projected for the next 30 years, do you think that the rest of Georgia will be overcome and dominated by Atlanta voters?

It's kind of spooky when you look at this map and compare 2000 to 2004 and see that pretty much the same counties are red and blue throughout the country: USATODAY.com
Most of the "blue" is the result of a high percentage of blacks within the core counties of Dekalb, Fulton, and Clayton. While there is an area of leftist whites in the city of Atlanta and Dekalb County, it is rather small compared to the number of conservatives in most of the metro.

If metro Atlanta gets "blueer", it's only the result of more minorities moving to the metro, not necessarily "northerners". I hear this quite a bit, but there aren't many liberal northerners moving to Atlanta. Most of the northerners moving here are conservative in nature. Furthermore, the highest percentages of northerners are in north Fulton, East Cobb, and Gwinnett west of I-85. Oh, and Peachtree City, too. The rest of Cobb and Gwinnett, as well as the rest of the metro, doesn't have a very high "northern" percentage.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:40 AM
 
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Yeah, ITP is going to turn more red in 20 years! LOL!

Are you kidding me? There's no way in hell. If anything, as ITP becomes more dense and urbanized, it will become more blue. People in dense urban areas understand diversity
Detroit understands it, and they don't have your viewpoint.
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Old 04-07-2008, 04:43 AM
 
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Today, DeKalb, Fulton, and Clayton are majority Democrat (also, the most fiscally bankrupt counties)
All of those have have high black percentages. Fulton at around 45%, Dekalb at around 60%, and Clayton at about 80%.
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Old 04-07-2008, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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The black community has blindly followed the Democrats for 40 years, since the Kennedy/Johnson era, when it was the Democrats who pushed through civil rights legislation like the voting rights act. The problem is that many in the black community don't take the time to think through the effects many failed liberal policies have had. Many of those policies have hurt that community instead of helping it. It's also interesting that many blacks (especially southern blacks) say they don't agree with the social policies of the moveon.org types but continue to vote for them in near monolithic numbers.
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:47 AM
 
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If metro Atlanta gets "blueer", it's only the result of more minorities moving to the metro, not necessarily "northerners". I hear this quite a bit, but there aren't many liberal northerners moving to Atlanta
The thing is that not all transplants are Notherners. Many would be more liberal to some extent compared to many areas of GA, even if they are fiscally conservative, but Atlanta also has transplants from many, many conservative Southern towns and from other conservative areas. People tend to think that is all Northerners moving to Atlanta, as if nobody is coming here from Tenn, FL, AL, SC, and other regional states - all of which incompass the most conservative region in the country.
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Old 04-07-2008, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Southeast
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The thing is that not all transplants are Notherners. Many would be more liberal to some extent compared to many areas of GA, even if they are fiscally conservative, but Atlanta also has transplants from many, many conservative Southern towns and from other conservative areas. People tend to think that is all Northerners moving to Atlanta, as if nobody is coming here from Tenn, FL, AL, SC, and other regional states - all of which incompass the most conservative region in the country.

Well, Atlanta is also a hotspot for people leaving the Chicago metro and Michigan, not sure what their political alignments are though.
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Old 04-07-2008, 09:39 PM
 
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I can't speak for fact, but I think once Dems move here, they tend to move to Conservative views once they've lived here for a while. There's a reason why it's so attractive to move here!
It's also why I, and another friend, are moving to Austin in the span of 12 months. I'm sick of the stifling, suffocating conservatism.
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:23 PM
 
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It's also why I, and another friend, are moving to Austin in the span of 12 months. I'm sick of the stifling, suffocating conservatism.
Well, if you want a college town, liberal atmosphere, Athens is right down the road.
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Atlanta,Ga
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The black community has blindly followed the Democrats for 40 years, since the Kennedy/Johnson era, when it was the Democrats who pushed through civil rights legislation like the voting rights act. The problem is that many in the black community don't take the time to think through the effects many failed liberal policies have had. Many of those policies have hurt that community instead of helping it. It's also interesting that many blacks (especially southern blacks) say they don't agree with the social policies of the moveon.org types but continue to vote for them in near monolithic numbers.
This is insulting. Many black people vote democrat because of their platform. Additionally its your opinion that liberal policies have failed the African American community, but others may feel differently. Finally no one party is perfect, there are many people who vote republican who do not agree everything the party tends to stand for.
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