Georgia, moving towards a bluer (more democrat) state? (Atlanta, Savannah: home, buying)

[netdragon]

I'm from the Northeast, and I've thought about the effect that an increased amount of Northerners could have on the balance between republicans/democrats in the state, since Georgia has been historically a red state. What do you think, will Georgia possibly elect a democrat this year? The inner metro ATL is blue on the election maps. With the growth of metro ATL projected for the next 30 years, do you think that the rest of Georgia will be overcome and dominated by Atlanta voters?

It's kind of spooky when you look at this map and compare 2000 to 2004 and see that pretty much the same counties are red and blue throughout the country: USATODAY.com

[gt6974a]

If you're talking about Norherners moving here.....I think the number of red's from the North, is far greater than the blues....

....I actually think you'll see ITP, turn more red in the next 20 years.

I can't speak for fact, but I think once Dems move here, they tend to move to Conservative views once they've lived here for a while. There's a reason why it's so attractive to move here!

There's no way in Hell GA goes with a democrat in this election, just ain't gonna happen.

[south-to-west]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

If you're talking about Norherners moving here.....I think the number of red's from the North, is far greater than the blues....

....I actually think you'll see ITP, turn more red in the next 20 years.

I can't speak for fact, but I think once Dems move here, they tend to move to Conservative views once they've lived here for a while. There's a reason why it's so attractive to move here!

There's no way in Hell GA goes with a democrat in this election, just ain't gonna happen.

Yeah, ITP is going to turn more red in 20 years! LOL!

Are you kidding me? There's no way in hell. If anything, as ITP becomes more dense and urbanized, it will become more blue. People in dense urban areas understand diversity and the separation between church and state. They also want clear and efficient policy when it comes to infrastructure funding, school cirriculum, and services. Georgia Republicans haven't shown any of indication of doing so. In fact, many Georgia Republicans simply turn their backs on Atlanta--especially in regards to the current transportation problems plaguing the area. ITP more red....yeah right.

[Merin]

If conservatives are moving from the north, they will most likely move OTP. I agree with the pp, I was in DC when everyone started moving back into the city...in no way did it turn more "Red" as a result.

[cmtiger]

If GA turns blue - it will be because Republicans at both the state and national level have been a total inept embarrassment. I used to be Republican but have switched over because I can't take the stupidity anymore.

[goozer]

Originally Posted by cmtiger

If GA turns blue - it will be because Republicans at both the state and national level have been a total inept embarrassment. I used to be Republican but have switched over because I can't take the stupidity anymore.

Does this mean you have renounced creationism and now believe in evolution???

[Georgia]

It would not surprise me that over the next election cycles the State of Georgia will turn Democrat.
All one needs to do is review the US Census, Almanac, and Commerce Stat's to see the rapid migration in Georgia.
According to the US Census estimated numbers released for 2006, along with the World Almanac numbers from December 2007 reflecting 2006 also, one can see that the estimated growth rate in Georgia was 265,000 in 2006 alone.

Taking the numbers into account, the hispanic vote (less Cuban) average a Democrat registration percentage of 45-50% Democrat. The black voting average is 90% Democrat.
Now take this into account with the influx of whites from New York City, Northern New Jersey, and Massachusetts, whom vote majority Democrat. Granted, all you need to do is read the boards and the flow. Goes something like this

"We are running from (Pick Northern Democrat State) due to job loss, property taxation, income tax, etc., so we can find the lower cost Utopia of the South"
They come, like the animals to Noah ark, in single file, children in hand, close on home and in 6 months you read the boards. Goes something like this

"We are bored, the services are the pits, there is nothing for little Johnny to do, we used to have this back home and that, we need it here! Hello, taxation, and the new blue!

So as one reviews the migration, without emotion but logic, reviews a growth rate of 265,000 folks coming into Georgia you will find change.

As with Illinois, the majority of Illnois is conservative, but the Chicago machine rules. With Georgia currently holding 9 million folks with over 60% of that in the Atlanta metroplex, it will have an effect. Today, DeKalb, Fulton, and Clayton are majority Democrat (also, the most fiscally bankrupt counties) with Gwinnett's left growing. Chatham County in Savannah another example.

So in my view, yes, I will see Georgia change. All you have to do is look out your window now and see that. All this wonderful growth in the name of "progress".

Now the other side of the coin in this argument. Will it make much of a difference? In today's world of politics there is no such thing as a conservative, that died with Reagan. Heck, there is no such thing as a old style Democrat, that died with Kennedy. Today we are stuck with RINO's and DINO's the party in name only. Two parties that have morphed into a Socialist light, new world order bend. Like sheep, we just follow right along.
As of today, look at our leaders in the Presidential line up.

Clinton, an inside the Beltway Socialist
Obama, a freshman Senator due to mostly age, but mirroring Clinton with his Government is the answer attitude to all ills.
McCain, I respect his service to our country, but an overall New World Order Neo-Con, open borders, Clinton light.
Romney, well he will just let you know what issue he stands on today before he changes his mind tomorrow approach.

Under our current step it doesn't matter what Georgia does since under our current path our future will be bread lines, sub par government medicine, and project housing for all. Bladerunner anyone! Makes you just feel all warm and fuzzy.

[Ectoprism]

I agree alot with the post above mine. If Romney gets the GOP nod, I wouldn't be shocked to see Georgia going blue, however I think McCain would take GA pretty easy.

Also, everyone keeps talking about people moving in from the northeast. Don't forget that lots of people are fleeing California and quite a few are landing up here. Most the right wingers in Cali are the ones who don't need to flee from the outrageous cost of living.

Little off topic....it probably won't happen, but I've heard a lot of talk about someone trying to run as a 3rd Party on behalf of a Christian Conservative platform or even Ron Paul deciding to run 3rd Party Libertarian. If that was to happen, either of them could land maybe 3-6% of southern state votes and pretty much all those votes would have gone Republican had they not run. They could land swinging GA and quite a few other southern states into a major Democrat advantage.

[JoeP]

I can't speak for fact, but I think once Dems move here, they tend to move to Conservative views once they've lived here for a while. There's a reason why it's so attractive to move here!

No not really.

A couple things are at work here. Georgia is deep south conservative. It's just very, very right wing on most everything.

Over 100,000 people move to Atlanta every year, many from the north and some (maybe a majority, maybe not, are liberal).

At the same time thousands of Southerners move to Atlanta from small towns and just as conservative small Southern cities.

The entrenched system is not overwhelmed enough to really turn much.

ITP will always be bluer. The question is how blue will the burbs be?

Right now, not very.

Even on a popular issue like buying beer, wine etc. on Sundays, the right wing state legislature fights it and our inept governor opposes it.

Because on God's day, you're supposed to go to the mall, not drink.

Well, you can drive somewhere to drink and drive home, you just can't go to the grocery store and bring it safely to your house, even if Sunday is the best day to do all of your grocery shopping.

Welcome the theocracy.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by netdragon

I'm from the Northeast, and I've thought about the effect that an increased amount of Northerners could have on the balance between republicans/democrats in the state, since Georgia has been historically a red state.

I come from a state that elected Jesse Ventura as Governor, and I'm proud to say that I helped to vote him into office.

Do you really want my kind having more influence here?

What do you think, will Georgia possibly elect a democrat this year?

I personally wish that neither major party would win. Give me social liberalism coupled with fiscal conservatism and lose the religious dogma, please.