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Old 11-07-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I said I was a 'Monarchist for a day' when the Queen visited. It's more about her, though, she's so stately and old...well she IS like 85, lol. I guess she's been an institution for over 50 years...

But you're right, the royals seem like no more than tabloid fodder, no different to Jordan or the Kardashians or something.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:09 PM
 
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I wonder if/when Chuck gets the job, whether the republicans will get louder. Ever since that pesky preamble its kinda died off.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:04 PM
 
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I wonder if/when Chuck gets the job, whether the republicans will get louder. Ever since that pesky preamble its kinda died off.
No doubt, a lot of Monarchists are old ladies with portraits of the Queen up on their wall, once they are gone, you will see support for the monarchy drop like that bloke's daks who mooned the Queen .
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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I said I was a 'Monarchist for a day' when the Queen visited. It's more about her, though, she's so stately and old...well she IS like 85, lol. I guess she's been an institution for over 50 years...

But you're right, the royals seem like no more than tabloid fodder, no different to Jordan or the Kardashians or something.
I feel the same. I'm pro-Republic but am not rabidly anti-Monarchist either that I can't get a wee bit excited when they come to town. Yes, stately, an institution - perfect description, which is why she is such a draw and manages to soften anti-Monarchists a little, or turn us into 'Monarchists for a Day' ... lol!

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I wonder if/when Chuck gets the job, whether the republicans will get louder. Ever since that pesky preamble its kinda died off.
I'm thinking it will. He's just not very liked and seems very stiff and just plain odd. Not somebody a lot of people can connect with, look up to or would be as drawn to go out and see. He talks to plants and dreams of being a tampon. That's just too weird for most of us.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:21 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I feel the same. I'm pro-Republic but am not rabidly anti-Monarchist either that I can't get a wee bit excited when they come to town. Yes, stately, an institution - perfect description, which is why she is such a draw and manages to soften anti-Monarchists a little, or turn us into 'Monarchists for a Day' ... lol!



I'm thinking it will. He's just not very liked and seems very stiff and just plain odd. Not somebody a lot of people can connect with, look up to or would be as drawn to go out and see. He talks to plants and dreams of being a tampon. That's just too weird for most of us.
He does? I might have misjudged the old coot...maybe he might spice things up a bit, eh?
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Old 11-08-2011, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
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No doubt, a lot of Monarchists are old ladies with portraits of the Queen up on their wall, once they are gone, you will see support for the monarchy drop like that bloke's daks who mooned the Queen .
I am very pro-Republic, but it is surprising how many young people are also Monarchists.
The Referendum, back in 1999, was poor timing just before the Sydney Olympics etc. Many individuals 10 years younger than me (I was nearly 30 at the time) were all for the Monarchy.
Victoria was the only state that had over 50% in favour of a Republic, states like SA and WA were strongly in favour of the Monarchy.
There were too many people not ready for change, and Little Johnnie Howard, the devout Monarchist that he was, wanted to make sure that the preamble was as confusing and as ambiguous as possible.
I just hope in my life time to see the Queens head wiped off the back of my coins.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:40 AM
 
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I am very pro-Republic, but it is surprising how many young people are also Monarchists.
The Referendum, back in 1999, was poor timing just before the Sydney Olympics etc. Many individuals 10 years younger than me (I was nearly 30 at the time) were all for the Monarchy.
Victoria was the only state that had over 50% in favour of a Republic, states like SA and WA were strongly in favour of the Monarchy.
There were too many people not ready for change, and Little Johnnie Howard, the devout Monarchist that he was, wanted to make sure that the preamble was as confusing and as ambiguous as possible.
I just hope in my life time to see the Queens head wiped off the back of my coins.
I don't know many my age who are pro-monarchy. At most they are indifferent. But I haven't really asked a lot of them.

I wonder whose face we'd replace it with? Be probably be easier just to leave the existing currency.

I'm not sure about a new flag, though. Pretty radical idea, and I doubt it would get much support even from alot of Monarchists.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:58 AM
 
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You don't have to be a Monarchist to support the Monarchy. I doubt many Australians are Monarchists, but I'd bet most Australians would like to see things stay the way they are.

The "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" sentiment seems to be very strong.



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I wonder whose face we'd replace it with? Be probably be easier just to leave the existing currency.

I'm not sure about a new flag, though. Pretty radical idea, and I doubt it would get much support even from alot of Monarchists.
I'd like a kangaroo or something like that.

New flag? No, because I have no faith the new one would look better than the current one. At most, just rearrange/delete parts of the current one.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
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I don't know many my age who are pro-monarchy. At most they are indifferent. But I haven't really asked a lot of them.

I wonder whose face we'd replace it with? Be probably be easier just to leave the existing currency.

I'm not sure about a new flag, though. Pretty radical idea, and I doubt it would get much support even from alot of Monarchists.
I read once that previous "Australians of the Year" could replace the Queen's head on the back of our coins. Not a bad idea.
The idea of a new flag is hardly radical, and has been on the cards for much longer than the current Monarchist vs Republican debate.
It seems to get the most rejection from war veterans.
I don't buy this "old diggers fought under this flag" nonsense.
They fought for freedom, not for a flag.
What is more, the Austalian and New Zealand flags look very similar , along with some other former British colonies.
Thus the flag has no uniqueness in my book.
Unfortunatley the flag will probably not change until a Republic comes into place.
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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I am very pro-Republic, but it is surprising how many young people are also Monarchists.
The Referendum, back in 1999, was poor timing just before the Sydney Olympics etc. Many individuals 10 years younger than me (I was nearly 30 at the time) were all for the Monarchy.
Victoria was the only state that had over 50% in favour of a Republic, states like SA and WA were strongly in favour of the Monarchy.
There were too many people not ready for change, and Little Johnnie Howard, the devout Monarchist that he was, wanted to make sure that the preamble was as confusing and as ambiguous as possible.
I just hope in my life time to see the Queens head wiped off the back of my coins.
Regarding the timing, it was a fairly strong topic. Possibly should have waited 5 years or so and that preamble was confusing and designed to make it unappealing.

As for the flag, gotta change. I like the Southern Cross
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