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Old 12-12-2018, 04:39 PM
 
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So on ACA tonight they had a segment on people retiring in Bali. Said there are 80,000 people being paid Australian pensions overseas, though I suspect quite a lot are former immigrants returning to places like Greece. But I cannot imagine what I would do all day in somewhere like Bali. Not helpful that I hate the weather there, but do many people want to spend their retirement years sitting on a beach?
Yes that's exactly what I would love to do for retirement My retirement goal has always been to live in the tropics. I don't have any children or dependents so it would be relatively easy for me to do when the time comes. I would have considered tropical Australia if it wasn't so expensive and very restrictive with retirement visas.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:38 PM
 
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I think Australia is in need of workers not retirees.
Although the need for workers appears to be somewhat over estimated. It does increase GDP of course, which can give the 'appearance' things are better than actually are.


No, the government wants the cash of rich retirees or anyone else for that matter; as the entire migration system is an important contributor to government coffers.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:47 PM
 
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Yes that's exactly what I would love to do for retirement My retirement goal has always been to live in the tropics. I don't have any children or dependents so it would be relatively easy for me to do when the time comes. I would have considered tropical Australia if it wasn't so expensive and very restrictive with retirement visas.
A sound idea. I've crossed paths with many retirees in the tropics. Not all stay the distance. Ill health or death of one of the couple can induce a return to country of origin, or elsewhere.


Saying that, most will cite better health and well being. More to do in life than stuck in some suburban setting. The heat is far better for aches and pains. Weight loss. Eating healthier. More diverse crowd of people than at home. More freedom .


Your in a similar boat to us, with no dependants. Not a bad situation at all, to have the world at your finger tips and the freedom to live and travel.
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Old 12-12-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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So on ACA tonight they had a segment on people retiring in Bali. Said there are 80,000 people being paid Australian pensions overseas, though I suspect quite a lot are former immigrants returning to places like Greece. But I cannot imagine what I would do all day in somewhere like Bali. Not helpful that I hate the weather there, but do many people want to spend their retirement years sitting on a beach?
A lot are former migrants. Greeks in particular returned in droves a few decades back. I guess many have passed on now. One thing that did come out is that the mortality rate for over eighties is only half that of those that live in Australia.


Now either that suggests, Australia is not a very healthy country to age in, compared to Greek Islands, Italy and Spain (main countries) or that something 'fishy' is going on. That being deceased folk go on getting paid long after claimant dies. Hence remaining relatives gain. From 1 July a more rigorous system will be introduced, with checks every two years.


Gosh there is plenty more to do in the tropics that sit on a beach. Bali, would not be my choice, but even there, a ton of things within the ex pat community.
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Old 12-12-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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A lot are former migrants. Greeks in particular returned in droves a few decades back. I guess many have passed on now. One thing that did come out is that the mortality rate for over eighties is only half that of those that live in Australia.


Now either that suggests, Australia is not a very healthy country to age in, compared to Greek Islands, Italy and Spain (main countries) or that something 'fishy' is going on. That being deceased folk go on getting paid long after claimant dies. Hence remaining relatives gain. From 1 July a more rigorous system will be introduced, with checks every two years.


Gosh there is plenty more to do in the tropics that sit on a beach. Bali, would not be my choice, but even there, a ton of things within the ex pat community.
Interesting, as anyone here getting an Italian pension have to prove the person is alive at least annually. Has to be signed off by a doctor as well as by the contact office here.

I have heard it said that some of the people in nursing homes from Italy etc who are supposedly over 100 may not actually be that old, keeping in mind that record keeping in those days when they were born was erratic.
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Old 12-13-2018, 04:26 PM
 
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Interesting, as anyone here getting an Italian pension have to prove the person is alive at least annually. Has to be signed off by a doctor as well as by the contact office here.

I have heard it said that some of the people in nursing homes from Italy etc who are supposedly over 100 may not actually be that old, keeping in mind that record keeping in those days when they were born was erratic.
Indeed. Germany has the same requirement. I can't think why Australians have been so reticent in the past on this matter. There must be any number of 'living relatives' quite possibly never set foot in Australia, in receipt of a payment to long deceased folk.
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