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I think another part of it was that most Australians wouldn't be aware of the fried chicken & african person association stereotype.
Nor do I as a Canadian and frequent visitor to the USA, for fried chicken in particular.
However, fried chicken is associated with "soul food"/southern food,
and most African Americans have ancestry in the southern US.
The only thing I saw potentially racist was the white Australian fan feeling frustrated about being outnumbered, and KFC of Australia suggested "he might need to tame a crowd of smiling West Indies fans who were blissfully ignoring him, some playing steel pan drums." ()
Nor do I as a Canadian and frequent visitor to the USA, for fried chicken in particular.
However, fried chicken is associated with "soul food"/southern food,
and most African Americans have ancestry in the southern US.
The only thing I saw potentially racist was the white Australian fan feeling frustrated about being outnumbered, and KFC of Australia suggested "he might need to tame a crowd of smiling West Indies fans who were blissfully ignoring him, some playing steel pan drums." ()
This was a joke. some stupid z grade reporter in the US saw the ad on the net & decided it was "racist". Give me a break
The ad had nothing to do with US racial sterotypes. Last I looked, West Indies are not part of USA. Therefore, there are no racist undertones of soul/southern food.
I get what you are saying CC, but ... the ad was on for months prior to this hoo-hah and never did one Australian speak out regarding the potential racist undertones (I don't believe there were any).
This was a joke. some stupid z grade reporter in the US saw the ad on the net & decided it was "racist". Give me a break
The ad had nothing to do with US racial sterotypes. Last I looked, West Indies are not part of USA. Therefore, there are no racist undertones of soul/southern food.
I get what you are saying CC, but ... the ad was on for months prior to this hoo-hah and never did one Australian speak out regarding the potential racist undertones (I don't believe there were any).
I wasn't even describing what I might find racist, but what "hypersensitive" people might find racist.
Yeah, and in another thread I mentioned it was silly to connect all the African American experiences and culture with West Indian African culture. It actually sounded "very-American" for someone to assume that everyone thinks the way Americans do, and when interpreting international events, assuming American motives were used.
I can't understand why he felt bad being ignored by other fans, but to me at worst, KFC made him look like an idiot, not a racist.
I wasn't even describing what I might find racist, but what "hypersensitive" people might find racist.
sorry - I meant that I understand that perspective (didn't assume it was your personal view)
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Originally Posted by ColdCanadian
Yeah, and in another thread I mentioned it was silly to connect all the African American experiences and culture with West Indian African culture. It actually sounded "very-American" for someone to assume that everyone thinks the way Americans do, and when interpreting international events, assuming American motives were used.
I can't understand why he felt bad being ignored by other fans, but to me at worst, KFC made him look like an idiot, not a racist.
The Australian habit of irreverance & mock abuse - taking the pi** out of each other - can be misunderstood by those not familiar with that cultural trait. Here, it is a sign of acceptance, overseas it doesn't go over too well. We're not PC, we're a bit rough, but I don't think this is racism.
In the case of the KFC ad, it was a cultural misunderstanding - on both sides really. But the minute one side points the racism finger, all communication ends.
Western countries are the most tolerant on the planet yet always get browbeaten for "racism". It's especially galling coming from people from countries that actively practise institutionalised racism and intolerance, sending their own people fleeing from their home countries to .... guess where? .... Western countries which apparently, according to the perpetually aggrieved PC-Gestapo are "racist". Yeah, right.
The Australian habit of irreverance & mock abuse - taking the pi** out of each other - can be misunderstood by those not familiar with that cultural trait. Here, it is a sign of acceptance, overseas it doesn't go over too well. We're not PC, we're a bit rough, but I don't think this is racism.
In the case of the KFC ad, it was a cultural misunderstanding - on both sides really. But the minute one side points the racism finger, all communication ends.
Western countries are the most tolerant on the planet yet always get browbeaten for "racism". It's especially galling coming from people from countries that actively practise institutionalised racism and intolerance, sending their own people fleeing from their home countries to .... guess where? .... Western countries which apparently, according to the perpetually aggrieved PC-Gestapo are "racist". Yeah, right.
I can second that from the perspective of some of the outwardly racist comments made towards other ethnic groups that recent immigrants in Australia make.
An example - I am photographing a big Lebanese wedding in a few weeks. I went to the Lebanese church last Saturday to scope the venue out. An elderly Lebanese guy who I did not know went into a huge vocal rant as there was supposed to be a christening at that time, but the attendees were 15 minutes late.
He started going on about "f**king wogs....always late. We are on f**king wog time now". And he was vocal about it and not on the quiet to me either.
Furthermore in my day job I work with a lot of Indians and Pakistanis and they seem quite open about slating each other (usually comes down to religious differences). And I am not talking about friendly banter either.
The Australian habit of irreverance & mock abuse - taking the pi** out of each other - can be misunderstood by those not familiar with that cultural trait. Here, it is a sign of acceptance, overseas it doesn't go over too well.
hahaha....sooooo true.........and guess who has been told they are the worst offender......
Lynching is the USA'S racist horror. So when we compare racism of different countries the lynching of innocent US citizens becasue of their color skin, you have to think! Have other advanced civilised countries use lynching? I can can think of one....they assissinate black leaders and a President called JFK who with his brother Robert supported civil rights(human rights).
And this all happened nearly 50 years ago.
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