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Old 09-15-2017, 07:08 PM
 
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Always wondered about those burnouts over the last few years when they really shredded those tires!

Older article, but there are current ones similar to this:


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...tion/73473804/
Thanks for the article. I had seen the same types earlier and it made me wonder why NASCAR allows the burnouts? You would think it would be just one more rule for them to enforce.
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Old 09-17-2017, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, AZ
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I used to eat, drink, sleep, and breathe NASCAR. Very rarely missed a race on tv. When Brian France took over from his dad, he thought he had a better way and that it all centered around money. He sucked up to the corporations for more sponsorships and they made demands about how he had to clean up the sport because they did not want to be associated with the redneck mentality. He was only too happy to oblige. What he failed to account for was that most of his fans were rednecks (or at least closet rednecks like me! ).

So as the cars became more IROC like and the drivers were punished for being human, the fans started leaving the exits. A couple months ago, I seen a NASCRAP race was on and so I decided to watch it for a while because I hadn't watched a race in years. I could only take about 10 minutes of it. So boring! The drivers are all pretty boys with rehearsed speaking skills (like those God awful politicians!), the cars are all equal (heaven forbid Ford should dominate one year and Chevy the next!), and then they stopped the race right in the middle because it was the end of a segment!!! What the??? That was when I changed the channel. It was comforting to know that all these years that I have not been watching, I haven't missed much!
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Old 09-17-2017, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Island of Misfit Toys
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haha yeah, segment racing is horrible and a horrible idea.
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Old 09-18-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Actually, I think segments are a great idea if we're going to continue to have the playoffs. It ensures that guys like Truex, who dominated the regular season, won't get knocked out in the first couple rounds.
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Old 10-08-2017, 06:28 AM
 
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This will likely be my last year watching. So many changes, loss of veterans like Gordon, Stewart, and Earnhardt, plus I just have too much going on to devote to watching 3 hour races. If I get chances to, I turn on PRN radio and listen while doing something else, but that's about it. At least PRN is still good.

Why else it might be failing has to do with a shift in what kids these days are interested in. Now its cell phones, computers, technology, video games....not cars, mechanics, tinkering.....
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Old 10-09-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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This will likely be my last year watching. So many changes, loss of veterans like Gordon, Stewart, and Earnhardt, plus I just have too much going on to devote to watching 3 hour races. If I get chances to, I turn on PRN radio and listen while doing something else, but that's about it. At least PRN is still good.

Why else it might be failing has to do with a shift in what kids these days are interested in. Now its cell phones, computers, technology, video games....not cars, mechanics, tinkering.....
The part about retirements.. You just can't change that. I tend to agree that the up and coming drivers don't have the feel of 'replacements' for who is being lost. But.. Did anyone think that Jeff Burton would be what he turned out to be in 94 or so when he was driving for the Stavola Brothers? Not talking about the quality of him as a driver, but the spokesman for the garage. So.. Got to give them time.

As for MRN and PRN... Always better IMO to listen to the radio broadcasts. They have the best announcers because.. Well, they have to. You really have to paint a bigger picture on radio than on TV.

I still miss Bestwick. You get me a booth of Bestwick, Benny Parsons and Ned Jarrett.. Not sure it could get a whole lot better. Now.. Ken Squire and Barney Hall were better than Bestwick, but his youth really served him well calling the races.

I absolutely hated Buddy Baker calling races in the day on TNN.. Loved him on SiriusXM tho.. And Eli Gold holds a special level of disgust for me.
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Old 10-09-2017, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Amelia Island
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Do you think NASCAR will resort to pre packaged cars put together by a third party and handed over to the teams to race?

In similar fashion to the IROC races?

It would keep costs down and teams would no longer have to spend so much on R and D with a car that has all it features designed in and each team has the same exact car.

Grasping at straws here........just thinking outside the box on how NASCAR can possibly save themselves.

https://sports.yahoo.com/brian-franc...162234353.html
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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Grasping at straws here........just thinking outside the box on how NASCAR can possibly save themselves.

https://sports.yahoo.com/brian-franc...162234353.html
They could start by accepting that they're a regional sport at best. Or if you're going to travel to Vegas/California/etc, at least give them an interesting track to race on.

Of course, SMI screwed up Bristol, something that should have been impossible.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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Of course, SMI screwed up Bristol, something that should have been impossible.

well, I actually disagree with that.. Racing is actually RACING at Bristol now. I presume you're talking the heyday of the late 90's.. Back when Bristol was a 1 groove track and the bump and run was basically the law of the land.

I get what you're saying, in a way I miss the old days of Bristol as well, but all in all, I enjoy the racing there more now because you can actually race.
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:48 PM
 
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So, what is causing the decline exactly?.
People are starting to realize NASCAR racing is kinda boring. I wonder if a DTM format might up the excitement level, kind of a cross between F1 and NASCAR =


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5lhQANa7Q4
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