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View Poll Results: Which generation do you prefer?
Old School 83 54.61%
New School 69 45.39%
Voters: 152. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-11-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Are you sure this is just an issue with modern cars?

Care to take a guess as to which of the above 1973 models is a hatchback?
I would guess the first one does.

But I don't see how it compares with how so many modern cars look alike. The two cars you posted are easy to tell they are American cars. Not so with a typical modern compact or mid-sized Chevy or Buick.
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: The 719
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The bottom one is the hatchback.

In any case, a couple of nice looking cars.
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Old 07-11-2013, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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Come on, Merc. How often would you see those cars you posted in the U.S.?
IT DOESN'T EFFIN' MATTER. DO they share styling cues or DON'T they? Just because you were to sheltered to ever see them doesn't change that basic fact!


Oh, and of course it's not a Valiant. But it shares styling cues with them and mid '60s Falcons and to someone not well versed in '60s cars, it could be a '68 Valiant for all they know. It's just an old car. You and I can tell individual older cars apart at a glance. The difference is, I see JUST as much differences between today's cars and can tell them apart at a glance, too. I'm 50 years old and never closed my mind up tightly like you did.

You're statement about all modern cars looking alike to the point you can't tell them apart just says how limited your brain is, not that the cars actually look any more alike than they ever did.













Lots of differences. Yes, in each niche classification of cars, they share basic forms, like cars always have (station wagons tend to look like station wagons, sedans look like sedans of their era, sports cars look like other sports cars), but even then the differences are quite clear if you have even half a brain.







They are all compact sport sedans, in red. But there are HUGE stylistic differences between them.
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:19 PM
 
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while i voted old school, i am not averse to mixing the two.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Merc, you sure get excitable whenever comparing old VS new cars! I enjoy discussing the subject, too, but this is just a forum and I don't get emotional over it.

Anyway, I would not mistake that car you posted for a '68 Valiant (see photo for a '67 Valiant), but, as mentioned before, I did mistake a new Buick LaCross for a Toyota! Would never have happened in the '60s.

As for the cars you posted, remember, I said a typical, 4-door "family" (compact or mid-sized) car... not an SUV or a hatchback... look practically the same these days. To try an deny it illogical. When a Ford or Chevy fitting the description above looks like yet another Japanese car, it doesn't make sense to claim otherwise.

Most of the cars you posted have a similar roofline and "blob" shape.

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Old 07-12-2013, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
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Speaking of new school, a review embargo was lifted on one of the newest of the new, the 2014 Mazda3 *insert singing angel choir*. Now that is definitely NOT an anonymous blob!
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Berkeley Springs, WV
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Default Old school



Nothing better looking than this..........except maybe this.....

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Old 07-12-2013, 07:18 AM
 
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I like both...and own both.

Who says I have to pick one?
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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I would guess the first one does.
Both are hatchbacks.

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But I don't see how it compares with how so many modern cars look alike. The two cars you posted are easy to tell they are American cars. Not so with a typical modern compact or mid-sized Chevy or Buick.
Totally different subject. I was responding to this exchange:

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Elantra.. first a SUV. Now a "wagon" ... lol no more a wagon than an Impreza, Mazda 3, golf etc.. hatchback..
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Hey, sometimes it's hard to tell exactly what some modern cars are!
You said it was hard to tell what modern cars are in regard to hatchback, wagon, SUV, etc. I used the early 1970s Nova to illustrate that this isn't necessarily a new thing.

But I'm sure you'll spin this off somehow rather than accept the fact that your broad generalizations aren't always accurate.
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Both are hatchbacks.

Totally different subject. I was responding to this exchange:

You said it was hard to tell what modern cars are in regard to hatchback, wagon, SUV, etc. I used the early 1970s Nova to illustrate that this isn't necessarily a new thing.

But I'm sure you'll spin this off somehow rather than accept the fact that your broad generalizations aren't always accurate.
Noted.

A Nova was available in hatchback form, but no mid-sized or full-sized '70s American cars that I know of were. Much less common back then.

However, I don't see how anyone can claim that today's cars look just as different as '60s (and late-'50s and '70s) cars.

Below are images of a Jan., 1959 issue of Motor Trend magazine. Showing the 1959 cars. It's very easy to see which ones are American and which ones are foreign. Not a "broad generalization," just pointing out the obvious.



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