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Old 11-16-2013, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Do you know anything about performance? HP is for braggin'; torque is for draggin'
Performance of what? Making stupid statements on the Interwebs for ecred? Apparently not. I'll leave that to the experts and stick to physics

Next we'll here the other redneck peal of wisdom of 100 hp shaving off a second, I assume.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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Another claimed HP to weight ratio was the key to a fast car. Guess the transmission and other parts plays no part in speed.
Physics absolutely proves this statement correct. Yes the transmission matters, but that is rarely a difference maker.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:21 PM
 
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Engines don't make horsepower; they make torque. Engines convert fuel into torque which is the twisting force of the crankshaft and through the transmission (and other driveline components) to the wheels.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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Physics absolutely proves this statement correct. Yes the transmission matters, but that is rarely a difference maker.
Shhhh. Don't tell Malloric.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If the vehicle is intended to be run on premium, and it isn't, power can definitely be lost. Common knowledge.

Sounds optimistic, but the point of adding or swapping to performance parts is to add power. Only the dyno knows the real numbers.


Chips are real. Not the $20 ebay junk, but they can make a substantial difference,. They are basically a fixed version of what handheld tuers or laptop programs can do.


Ferraris? Vettes? Many of the much smaller exotic companies?

HP to weight is where every car begins. The more weight a car has the more power it needs to compete, more brakes to stop, and more suspension to manage the bulk. Colin Chapman made it his motto in regards to making cars faster-"add more lightness".
Lol, I am talking about the ebay junk.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Why? I don't dispute anything hoff said. He's one of the intelligent posters in this thread. VictimofGM's comment was dumb, we both pointed that out. Physics absolutely proves that HP:weight is the key to a fast car. Other things, of course, matter but are less of importance. That you apparently don't understand what a function is and like popular folksy sayings that have no basis in reality is neither here nor there. The old "horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" line your grandfather picked up from a car salesman before you were born should be allowed to go to the grave with your grandfather. The 328d has nearly as much torque as the E90 M3 did. Torque does not win races.

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Old 11-16-2013, 07:42 PM
 
Location: sumter
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torque is what pushes you back in the seat and gets you up to speed and horsepower is what keep you there.
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Old 11-16-2013, 07:53 PM
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you are sitting around talking car engine designs, you make a comment on the v4 design and people act like you're nuts, stating things like, "you must be a dumbass cuz they never made a v4, its a flat 4 or i4". good thing wiki is around...some people.
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Old 11-16-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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There were some rings you attached to the wheels that supposedly enhanced stability and steering. Don't recall if they were supposed to increase gas mileage as well.
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Old 11-16-2013, 08:06 PM
MJ7
 
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people sitting around comparing hp with other cars...showing that they know nothing about cars at all. ITS MUCH MORE THAN HP, CARS ARE ALL TUNED DIFFERENTLY, weight, steering, braking ect, never mentioned just hp....snooze fest
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