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Old 03-20-2014, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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I have a question and please excuse me if I sound uninformed.


Let's say the flight was enroute, but the pilots forgot to switch the pressurization switch from manual to auto and as the plane continued to climb, decompression occured and the passengers in the main cabin passed out. If the pilots had a greater oxygen supply in the cockpit than the passengers did, would the pilots be able to correct this mistake or is there no way to do that? Also, since the passengers passed out, how much damage is done at that point to the passengers since the plane is continuing to climb and would correcting the pressurization (if possible) do anything to help the passengers or would the damage already be done?

If the pilots (I say if because I do not want to assume the pilots are responsible) realized the damage had been done to the passengers, but were able to correct the pressurization anyways, do you believe they would have freaked out at what they were responsible for doing? If this happened, do you think the pilots would have been in such a deterioted mental state that they decided to alter the course of the plane, turn off the transponders, and let the plane go in a different direction, and end it?
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:37 PM
 
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I have a question and please excuse me if I sound uninformed.


Let's say the flight was enroute, but the pilots forgot to switch the pressurization switch from manual to auto and as the plane continued to climb, decompression occured and the passengers in the main cabin passed out. If the pilots had a greater oxygen supply in the cockpit than the passengers did, would the pilots be able to correct this mistake or is there no way to do that? Also, since the passengers passed out, how much damage is done at that point to the passengers since the plane is continuing to climb and would correcting the pressurization (if possible) do anything to help the passengers or would the damage already be done?

If the pilots (I say if because I do not want to assume the pilots are responsible) realized the damage had been done to the passengers, but were able to correct the pressurization anyways, do you believe they would have freaked out at what they were responsible for doing? If this happened, do you think the pilots would have been in such a deterioted mental state that they decided to alter the course of the plane, turn off the transponders, and let the plane go in a different direction, and end it?

So basically the pilots are more afraid of getting fired than of dying? If they wanted to end it, they could have just crashed the plane anywhere, why fly it for six more hours and then go kill themselves?

Like Helio Flight 522, there'd be warnings about the decreased pressure. Either the pilot figured out the problem and corrected it promptly, or they couldn't figure it out in time and the passengers were put in danger; in the later scenario, you'd think that the pilots would have reported the problem long before they found out the damage it had done to the passengers.

So I don't think your scenario quite "fly".
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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So basically the pilots are more afraid of getting fired than of dying? If they wanted to end it, they could have just crashed the plane anywhere, why fly it for six more hours and then go kill themselves?

Like Helio Flight 522, there'd be warnings about the decreased pressure. Either the pilot figured out the problem and corrected it promptly, or they couldn't figure it out in time and the passengers were put in danger; in the later scenario, you'd think that the pilots would have reported the problem long before they found out the damage it had done to the passengers.

So I don't think your scenario quite "fly".
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Well, at this point, I guess it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks since no one really knows anything anyways...I prefaced my post by saying please excuse my post if it sounds uninfored. There's no reason to be crass or throw out facetious remarks unless you're purposely trying to debunk any proven theories (wait there aren't any).
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:46 PM
 
Location: NW AR
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So basically the pilots are more afraid of getting fired than of dying? If they wanted to end it, they could have just crashed the plane anywhere, why fly it for six more hours and then go kill themselves?

Like Helio Flight 522, there'd be warnings about the decreased pressure. Either the pilot figured out the problem and corrected it promptly, or they couldn't figure it out in time and the passengers were put in danger; in the later scenario, you'd think that the pilots would have reported the problem long before they found out the damage it had done to the passengers.

So I don't think your scenario quite "fly".
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Why not? If they flew it for six more hours, there is no way you could prove it. They were completely off radar. So, who said the plane never flew low? You've got several reports of a low flying plane here.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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I have a question and please excuse me if I sound uninformed.


Let's say the flight was enroute, but the pilots forgot to switch the pressurization switch from manual to auto and as the plane continued to climb, decompression occured and the passengers in the main cabin passed out. If the pilots had a greater oxygen supply in the cockpit than the passengers did, would the pilots be able to correct this mistake or is there no way to do that? Also, since the passengers passed out, how much damage is done at that point to the passengers since the plane is continuing to climb and would correcting the pressurization (if possible) do anything to help the passengers or would the damage already be done?

If the pilots (I say if because I do not want to assume the pilots are responsible) realized the damage had been done to the passengers, but were able to correct the pressurization anyways, do you believe they would have freaked out at what they were responsible for doing? If this happened, do you think the pilots would have been in such a deterioted mental state that they decided to alter the course of the plane, turn off the transponders, and let the plane go in a different direction, and end it?
Is there actually such a switch?
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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Is there actually such a switch?
Maybe not a switch, but a setting. I am not a pilot and have no clue, do you?
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: where you sip the tea of the breasts of the spinsters of Utica
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There's still no accounting for the calm "good night" some time after the plane had already started to turn, nor the failure of multiple signalling systems at about the same time, including mechanisms to deal with fire ...... nor the fact that it maneuvered quite a lot before going south.

Actual 777 pilots have said it couldn't have been a fire. Not just small plane hobbyists, but real 777 experienced pilots.

I think it's safe to say that it's some kind of terrorism. If the co-pilot were both suicidal AND homicidal, there would have been some sort of indication in his life.

However I can't even imagine why terrorists would spend so much time and money on simply making it disappear, when it could have been crashed into something with more effect.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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this is very interesting in light of maldives officials saying witness reports were not true even though "several" say they saw it.

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someone else speculated that it was a code. If you use a=1, b=2, c=3....l=12, etc. Then apparently "alright, good night" gives this coordinate: 1.12121897820, 71.51541497820. When you put that into google maps, it brings you to the maldives islands.
That is actually quite creepy. I just tried it myself on google maps and it does go near the Maldives. Not dead on but enough to make it really odd.

(And it does work: 1(A).12(L)12(L) 18(R)9(I)7(G)8(H)20(T), 7(G)15(O)15(O)4(D) 14(N)9(I)7(G)8(H)20(T)

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Old 03-20-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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Beware of numerologists. They can really mess with your mind.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:33 PM
 
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Beware of numerologists. They can really mess with your mind.
Only if you forget your tinfoil hat.
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