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Old 03-20-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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OK, so why would they program a turn that takes them away from safety and towards open ocean?
Say there was some sort of fire, perhaps they told the plane to go to the backup airport they'd programmed earlier. Then maybe at some point someone bumped the controls and got the plane to turn off course again (although hadn't they missed the airport at this point?) and the pilots became unconscious for the rest of the flight? Although I don't see how a fire could burn for seven hours without taking down the plane. Also, that depressurized Helios jet circled Athens on its own until it ran out of fuel, perhaps the 777 would have done the same unless the controls were being affected. But then, how could it have stayed in the air for seven hours with those types of problems? You'd think it would only get worse as time went on.
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:17 PM
 
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At schools they have heavy doors to shut in case of a fire so it doesn't go down the corridors. Do planes have something similar?
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:32 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the Kona coffee fields
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The image is projected at 24 meters (78ft). The missing schooner that disappeared 9 months ago sailing from New Zealand to Australia was 70 ft long. I've now heard two reports this could be the schooner that went missing with 7 people aboard during a bad storm.
The Antarctic Circumpolar Current (ACC) goes from from west to east, but makes sailing extremely difficult from east to west; in addition there are prevailing westerly winds. The schooner NINA went missing east of Australia & new Zealand and could have not floated against the current and wind westward.

There are no shipping lanes in the vicinity where containers would fall off ships. And very little floating debris as the ACC goes around and around Antarctica.
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:12 PM
 
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What I heard is that RR offers real time engine monitoring as a paid service but Malaysian Airlines was not a subscriber. The pings were merely hard-coded handshaking - the engine saying I'm here and the sat saying I see you - but that no actual data was transmitted. That's why we have no info about the aircraft speed after the transponders went off.
That is just it, know one seems to know. If what I posted was true, RR has constant real time telemetry on their lease engines that are completely stand alone and seperate from the plane and has nothing to do with the airline signing up to it or not. If this is true and I'm sure they do not want it known then hopefully the authorities have been pouring over the data from RR and overlapping it to their timeline.
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Does the flight path from Malaysia to the debris area extend directly to the South Pole? (destination set to 90°00'00"S 00°00'00"E?).
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:45 PM
 
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Does the flight path from Malaysia to the debris area extend directly to the South Pole? (destination set to 90°00'00"S 00°00'00"E?).
That debris, if it is from the missing plane, has not been floating over a crash site for the last 13 days. I think they'd have to calculate, based on the currents, how far and in what direction it came from.
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Does the flight path from Malaysia to the debris area extend directly to the South Pole? (destination set to 90°00'00"S 00°00'00"E?).
Interesting question.

The plane was avoiding Indonesia from all appearances since it flew west for awhile towards the Andaman Islands in the Bay of Bengal before it turned south. Those are at a longitude of 92 degrees, 45' East.

The longitude of the debris found was 91 degrees, 13' East. But it likely drifted somewhat.

So the plane was likely flying along a line of constant longitude, and since all longitudinal lines converge at the South pole, it appears you are right - it could well have been programmed for there. Very interesting.
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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And the interesting thing is if they can determine exactly where in the Bay of Bengal the plane turned south, and assuming someone set the autopilot to fly dead south, they should be able to pin down exactly where it hit the water.
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:18 PM
 
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This is very interesting in light of Maldives officials saying witness reports were not true even though "several" say they saw it.

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Someone else speculated that it was a code. If you use A=1, B=2, C=3....L=12, etc. then apparently "alright, good night" gives this coordinate: 1.12121897820, 71.51541497820. When you put that into google maps, it brings you to the Maldives Islands.
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Old 03-20-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: The City
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This is very interesting in light of Maldives officials saying witness reports were not true even though "several" say they saw it.
the missing quatrain
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