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Old 05-12-2014, 06:54 AM
 
Location: NM-CR
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It was only fueled for a 2500 mile flight and has a range about three times that far. It wasn't too heavy to climb that high.
Really, with 47,000gal of jet fuel on board and at max t/o weight - you don't think so.
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Really, with 47,000gal of jet fuel on board and at max t/o weight - you don't think so.
But it was almost certainly nowhere near maximum takeoff weight. I don't know exactly what the fuel capacity is, but it's unlikely it was fueled to more than 35-40% of capacity.

The planned flight was about the distance of a flight from New York to Cali. The plane flies from New York to Hong Kong.
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:50 AM
 
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Is there any verified claims of how much actual fuel was on the plane? We are basing this on the distance to Beijing, but if the pilot was really in on this operation, is there a possibility he could have had more fuel put in it than we think and someone is just remaining silent about it.

I think it may be in the deepest part of the Indian ocean to the west of where they are searching and will never be found, but if it did land somewhere someone is planning something really bad in the future.
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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Let me ask this of all persons amid the list of theories.

Do you think there is one person or more than one person, besides the people in the plane, who know what happened to the plane and where it is?

Be they people on the ground in the jungles of Malaysia, the rice fields of Indonesia, fishermen in the various seas, ground crews at the Malaysian airport who may have filled the fuel tank, someone who is a resident of Korea or other country (such as a military person since one theory is the plane was shot down), etc.

Do you think any living person who was not on the plane knows where it is?

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Old 05-12-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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Let me ask this of all persons amid the list of theories.

Do you think there is one person or more than one person, besides the people in the plane, who know what happened to the plane and where it is?

Be they people on the ground in the jungles of Malaysia, the rice fields of Indonesia, fishermen in the various seas, ground crews at the Malaysian airport who may have filled the fuel tank, someone who is a resident of Korea or other country (such as a military person since one theory is the plane was shot down), etc.

Do you think any living person who was not on the plane knows where it is?
I have asked that before because it seems like, if this was a criminal act as they are saying (or were saying), then there must have been a plan in place beforehand. It's hard to believe the pilot or copilot or a crew member devised a plan alone that would put the plane on the alternate route, so to speak, and then have it vanish (and presumably crash), without anyone else having any knowledge of that plan.
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:50 AM
 
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Let me ask this of all persons amid the list of theories.

Do you think there is one person or more than one person, besides the people in the plane, who know what happened to the plane and where it is?

Be they people on the ground in the jungles of Malaysia, the rice fields of Indonesia, fishermen in the various seas, ground crews at the Malaysian airport who may have filled the fuel tank, someone who is a resident of Korea or other country (such as a military person since one theory is the plane was shot down), etc.

Do you think any living person who was not on the plane knows where it is?
I think the issue here is Planes might not have the technology that we think they have tracking wise and once the transponders are turned off, its kinda like turning off the GPS and data on your cellphone to the point where you have no clue where it is.


Only scenarios possible now are:
-Crashed deep in Indian ocean west of where they are looking and is 20,000 + ft deep and will never be found as the most vindictive pilot suicide ever.
-Crashed in Bay of Bengal
-Crashed somewhere remote on Northern Arc, but since we are looking south we will not see it
-Landed somewhere on the Northern Arc and someone is hiding the plane with a awful terror plan in the future, but what did they do with all those bodied and who will fly this thing in the future.
-Someones military shot it down and not saying a word.

Since there was no distress calls from the cockpit, the plane turned off tracking and turned west, the plane flew below radar and then flew around Indonesian radar, and flew for another 5+ hrs, I will rule this pilot suicide or a 1% chance the plane had way more fuel than we thought and landed somewhere.
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:18 AM
 
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I would like to ask a question?
The new guy who figured the latest data (without proper facts) says he believes the plane could be in the Atlantic Ocean.

How could that scenario have taken place? Any ideas?
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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I would like to ask a question?
The new guy who figured the latest data (without proper facts) says he believes the plane could be in the Atlantic Ocean.

How could that scenario have taken place? Any ideas?

IS this the article you are referring to?

Why the Official Explanation of MH370
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:23 AM
 
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The author wrote about it in The Atlantic. Not about it being in the Atlantic.
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Old 05-12-2014, 11:39 AM
 
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Is there any verified claims of how much actual fuel was on the plane? We are basing this on the distance to Beijing, but if the pilot was really in on this operation, is there a possibility he could have had more fuel put in it than we think and someone is just remaining silent about it.

I think it may be in the deepest part of the Indian ocean to the west of where they are searching and will never be found, but if it did land somewhere someone is planning something really bad in the future.
Exactly.
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