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Old 06-21-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: So California
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LOL at thinking anyone good enough for ANY kind of look is a bum. Reality says that there's likely fewer than ~1000 people in the world that can hoop better. If you last one season in the NBA, you are freakishly talented.


That's true, and obviously the guy can score when given minutes. Its size and lack of D that doomed him in the NBA. Other than that he's been a star at every other level from college, D league, China and a few good games in the NBA.




Its funny for guys who play pick up games and you play with some guys who are very good, and then one day a guy shows up who played real college ball and is light years better than everyone else, then you figure that guy couldn't sniff even an NBA tryout!
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Old 06-22-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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LOL at thinking anyone good enough for ANY kind of look is a bum. Reality says that there's likely fewer than ~1000 people in the world that can hoop better. If you last one season in the NBA, you are freakishly talented.
I don't think it matters that Fredette is good at basketball for the world. The question is whether Fredette is an NBA-caliber player. The answer is: no.
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Old 06-22-2017, 12:51 PM
 
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I don't think it matters that Fredette is good at basketball for the world. The question is whether Fredette is an NBA-caliber player. The answer is: no.
He played in FIVE NBA seasons and was offered 10 day contracts as recently as last year - I'd say that makes him NBA caliber from a macro career perspective.
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Old 06-22-2017, 01:16 PM
 
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He played in FIVE NBA seasons and was offered 10 day contracts as recently as last year - I'd say that makes him NBA caliber from a macro career perspective.
The Kings (the most hopeless of all franchises) wasted a lottery pick on him. They gave him a chance to develop on his rookie scale contract. The injury-depleted Pelicans took a flyer on him. Then he bounced out of the league. That means he was a draft bust & not NBA-caliber.
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Old 06-22-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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He played in FIVE NBA seasons and was offered 10 day contracts as recently as last year - I'd say that makes him NBA caliber from a macro career perspective.
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The Kings (the most hopeless of all franchises) wasted a lottery pick on him. They gave him a chance to develop on his rookie scale contract. The injury-depleted Pelicans took a flyer on him. Then he bounced out of the league. That means he was a draft bust & not NBA-caliber.
to be fair, yes 5 teams gave him a chance, 2.5 seasons in SAC, 8 games in chi
50 games in NO before being cut loose
brought back for 4 games, and 2 games on a 10 day in new york.
even if you averaged out the total games over 5 seasons its 47 games per season. he had a total of 7 starts in his career. his biggest minutes was as a rookie at 19 mpg, then 14, then 11, then 11, 7, 10, 3,3,3.
so clearly the kings thought he could play early on, then realized hmmm maybe he cant play at this level.

since so many jimmer fans like to tell everyone how he killed kawhi in college, lets look where it maters.
Jimmer Fredette vs. Kawhi Leonard Comparison
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Old 06-22-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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to be fair, yes 5 teams gave him a chance, 2.5 seasons in SAC, 8 games in chi
50 games in NO before being cut loose
brought back for 4 games, and 2 games on a 10 day in new york.
even if you averaged out the total games over 5 seasons its 47 games per season. he had a total of 7 starts in his career. his biggest minutes was as a rookie at 19 mpg, then 14, then 11, then 11, 7, 10, 3,3,3.
so clearly the kings thought he could play early on, then realized hmmm maybe he cant play at this level.

since so many jimmer fans like to tell everyone how he killed kawhi in college, lets look where it maters.
Jimmer Fredette vs. Kawhi Leonard Comparison
If a lottery prospect looks like they have any chance of panning out, the drafting team will extend. The Kings didn't. 8 games with Chicago and a couple of 10-day contracts after the Pelicans flyer just shows that his bustness became apparent. Declining games & min/g are a sign of the same.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: So California
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to be fair, yes 5 teams gave him a chance, 2.5 seasons in SAC, 8 games in chi
50 games in NO before being cut loose
brought back for 4 games, and 2 games on a 10 day in new york.
even if you averaged out the total games over 5 seasons its 47 games per season. he had a total of 7 starts in his career. his biggest minutes was as a rookie at 19 mpg, then 14, then 11, then 11, 7, 10, 3,3,3.
so clearly the kings thought he could play early on, then realized hmmm maybe he cant play at this level.

since so many jimmer fans like to tell everyone how he killed kawhi in college, lets look where it maters.
Jimmer Fredette vs. Kawhi Leonard Comparison


Its ok Kawhi has been good in the NBA. Jimmer was still a better college player, and still by far the better shooter.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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Its ok Kawhi has been good in the NBA. Jimmer was still a better college player, and still by far the better shooter.
But look at the numbers, kawhi has better hooting % in every category except free throws which he is only SLIGHTLY lower.

Kawhi killing jimmer when it counts, you know when you're getting paid.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:04 PM
 
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The Kings (the most hopeless of all franchises) wasted a lottery pick on him. They gave him a chance to develop on his rookie scale contract. The injury-depleted Pelicans took a flyer on him. Then he bounced out of the league. That means he was a draft bust & not NBA-caliber.
If you have no game - you don't play more than a few games at the NBA level. NBA defenders would smell blood and have you turning the ball over on nearly every touch. There have been thousands of NBA players who played a season or two putting up a few points per game. Would I say they aren't NBA material? No. They made it. Case closed. If Jimmer in deed received 10 day offers - he's still freakishly gifted.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:17 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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If you have no game - you don't play more than a few games at the NBA level. NBA defenders would smell blood and have you turning the ball over on nearly every touch. There have been thousands of NBA players who played a season or two putting up a few points per game. Would I say they aren't NBA material? No. They made it. Case closed. If Jimmer in deed received 10 day offers - he's still freakishly gifted.
Compared to you, me, or the rest of the posters on this board, but in the NBA he's a bum.
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