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Old 06-24-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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he played well enough in college to duped an nba team to picking him 10th where he got guaranteed money.
he couldnt even finish his rookie contract because he sucked. period. he was waived before completing his contract.

signed a minimum contract in NO where he couldnt get minutes, then signed a camp deal in SA where he got waived before the season started. while a nobody kid who paid his own way to get a Dleague try out got taken over him, and ray mccallum played 31 games that season also.
then he signed a contract in NO AGAIN, but lasted 9 days before being waived.
then he signed a 10 day with new york where he played 2 games.

but yeah, he made a little bit of money.

it doesnt have anything to do with "is he hungry enough for the NBA" its purely a mater of he cant play at that level. period, end of discussion, its a fact. the end.
Jimmer never duped anyone. He is what he is - a clean cut kid that could shoot the ball at an elite level. It's not like he nefariously attempted to con teams into drafting him. He played 5 seasons, made his money and still has at least a little interest from NBA teams. Period. End of discussion.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: spring tx
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Jimmer never duped anyone. He is what he is - a clean cut kid that could shoot the ball at an elite level. It's not like he nefariously attempted to con teams into drafting him. He played 5 seasons, made his money and still has at least a little interest from NBA teams. Period. End of discussion.
He wasn't even THAT good a shooter in college.
46/39/88 is decent but not GREAT

And for the record, he never played a singl full NBA season. 69 games and 7 starts was his best season.

Take the blinders off.

What little bit of money he made is great and all, but has zero to do with the topic. He's not an NBA talent.
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Old 06-24-2017, 10:55 AM
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Location: Hudson Valley, NY
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What happened to Jimmer Fredette in the NBA? | ProBasketballTalk

Not sure if this was ever posted? It's dead on accurate from everything I've ever heard. Fredette is an unreal shooter who unfortunately doesn't have NBA athleticism. More importantly is coaches say Jimmer has an attitude where he thinks he should still be 'the guy' and the other 4 guys on the court have a role to play around him. In interviews he comes across as a really likeable humble kid, which he may well be, but on the court he has a real ego.

We get the Westchester Knicks games on MSG and I remember watching a game that was really close and the camera picked up the coach on the opposing team during a timeout telling his players to get the ball to whomever Fredette was covering. That's D League coaches who are aware Jimmer is a human turnstile on defense.

There's no shame in being a good enough college player to be drafted and not make it in the NBA. Look at the list of the 300 players taken in the first round over the last 10 years. There are a lot of guys on that list bigger, stronger, faster than Jimmer that didn't make it.
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Old 06-24-2017, 11:06 AM
Q44
 
Location: Hudson Valley, NY
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Last thought, from a NY State Section 2 Basketball point of view. Once Kevin Huerter gets drafted in to the NBA, the legend of Jimmer will hopefully finally be over. Kevin Huerter is the real deal with the talent, size and athleticism to make it.
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Old 06-24-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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He wasn't even THAT good a shooter in college.
46/39/88 is decent but not GREAT

And for the record, he never played a singl full NBA season. 69 games and 7 starts was his best season.

Take the blinders off.

What little bit of money he made is great and all, but has zero to do with the topic. He's not an NBA talent.
Are you serious? VOLUME. Scoring enough to put up 22ppg and 29ppg on 46/39/88 is ELITE.

For reference:

JJ Redick shot 43/41/91 - not that great of a shooter?
Steph Curry shot 47/41/88 - not that great of a shooter?

JJ, Jimmer and Steph were the focus of every team they played. What more do you expect from them?

And 69 games doesn't constitute playing an NBA season? In what world? What next...gonna argue that Durant and Lebron didn't play in 2017 because they didn't play 82 games?
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Old 06-24-2017, 01:25 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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Big difference between missing a few games in a season is ver a 12-13-14+ season career than not even getting on the floor for your an entire season your first year when you're such an elite scorer. Oh wait, he ISNT an elite scorer in the NBA.

You jimmer fans are delusional.

Dude got 7 starts in his career.
Jonathan Simmons got 4 starts in the playoffs. He's not even that good of a shooter.

More to the game than chunking up shot attempts. Jimmer can't do anything else.

I'm done. Take the blinders off bro
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Old 06-24-2017, 01:41 PM
 
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Big difference between missing a few games in a season is ver a 12-13-14+ season career than not even getting on the floor for your an entire season your first year when you're such an elite scorer. Oh wait, he ISNT an elite scorer in the NBA.

You jimmer fans are delusional.

Dude got 7 starts in his career.
Jonathan Simmons got 4 starts in the playoffs. He's not even that good of a shooter.

More to the game than chunking up shot attempts. Jimmer can't do anything else.

I'm done. Take the blinders off bro
So now the standard for playing an NBA season is starting games? Wow. Who makes these arbitrary distinctions? You?

Perhaps you can protest when Jimmer starts drawing his pension for playing at least 3 seasons.
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Old 06-24-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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What happened to Jimmer Fredette in the NBA? | ProBasketballTalk

Not sure if this was ever posted? It's dead on accurate from everything I've ever heard. Fredette is an unreal shooter who unfortunately doesn't have NBA athleticism. More importantly is coaches say Jimmer has an attitude where he thinks he should still be 'the guy' and the other 4 guys on the court have a role to play around him. In interviews he comes across as a really likeable humble kid, which he may well be, but on the court he has a real ego.

We get the Westchester Knicks games on MSG and I remember watching a game that was really close and the camera picked up the coach on the opposing team during a timeout telling his players to get the ball to whomever Fredette was covering. That's D League coaches who are aware Jimmer is a human turnstile on defense.

There's no shame in being a good enough college player to be drafted and not make it in the NBA. Look at the list of the 300 players taken in the first round over the last 10 years. There are a lot of guys on that list bigger, stronger, faster than Jimmer that didn't make it.


This is how he averaged 29pts game in college, 22 in the D league and 37pts/game in China. His game is that way and he'll make a crap ton of money in China for a few more years. He may or may not get another NBA shot, we shall see.


The article is right on regarding his athleticism, meaning there is a long list of players who are athletic enough for the NBA that never sniff a roster spot.


The point also for guys like rigas who only cares about the spurs (which need help) is that there are lots of NBA caliber players that for whatever reason didn't make it. To me its Jimmers size and style NOT ability.
There are tons of NBA players who are not capable of scoring the way he does. First year in China - leading scorer and league MVP
Jimmer finished the year #1 in scoring at 37.6pts / game and 47% shooting 40% 3pt and 93.5% ft shooting along with 8.2rebs, 4.2 assists and 1.6 steals.
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Old 06-24-2017, 03:36 PM
 
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So now the standard for playing an NBA season is starting games? Wow. Who makes these arbitrary distinctions? You?

Perhaps you can protest when Jimmer starts drawing his pension for playing at least 3 seasons.
Nope, the standard for "making it" and "not being a bust" is actually finishing your entire contracts without getting waived by every team you ever plaid for... ALL OF THEM WAIVED HIM!

Dude is a bust plain and simple...
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Old 06-24-2017, 03:41 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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This is how he averaged 29pts game in college, 22 in the D league and 37pts/game in China. His game is that way and he'll make a crap ton of money in China for a few more years. He may or may not get another NBA shot, we shall see.


The article is right on regarding his athleticism, meaning there is a long list of players who are athletic enough for the NBA that never sniff a roster spot.


The point also for guys like rigas who only cares about the spurs (which need help) is that there are lots of NBA caliber players that for whatever reason didn't make it. To me its Jimmers size and style NOT ability.
There are tons of NBA players who are not capable of scoring the way he does. First year in China - leading scorer and league MVP
Jimmer finished the year #1 in scoring at 37.6pts / game and 47% shooting 40% 3pt and 93.5% ft shooting along with 8.2rebs, 4.2 assists and 1.6 steals.
Notice anything about this?
College, dleague, china... all very low level of competition. Not even Euro league level competition.
I teach/train martial arts, never been a world champion in jiu jitsu, but I've damn sure won a lot of local and regional stuff. That's about where jimmer is, doing great on the local/regional level, can't hang with the world champion level guys.
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