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Old 03-02-2010, 06:47 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Now it's the height advantage? Manute Bol, Gheorge Muresan, Shawn Bradley...
He was 7ft and everyone else on the court was 5'11 and under
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Brushy Creek
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He was 7ft and everyone else on the court was 5'11 and under
Please humor me by providing the listing of the teams at the time with player heights? I can find it myself, no problem, but this is worse than a circular argument giving birth!!!
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Cook County
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Shaq said himself he was never on Hakeem' level and that Hakeem is greatest center of all time
When after the '95 series or recently? Things have changed since 95 in regards to Shaq's resume/ego.
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Cook County
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He was 7ft and everyone else on the court was 5'11 and under
lol, can you provide links, or numbers or anything?

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Old 03-03-2010, 06:01 PM
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The problem with that argument is you can't name another guy who scored a 100 pts back then. Regardless of the time, Wilt's stats were ridiculous. He was a 7fter that ran tack and field at Kansas. He was the greatest combination of size, power, SPEED and athleticism to ever play the game. They had to create rules based on Wilt because he was so dominant. Even today, Wilt would be dominant because unlike most centers today, he had agility and speed and wasn't just a stiff or a glorified offensive lineman that mauled people (Shaq). And Hakeem only won 2 rings because Jordan took a 2 year hiatus.
Another bogus assertion. I guess i should make one too. The Rockets dominated the Bulls(going 5-1) during their first 3 championships, so i guess the rockets would have 5 titles if they made it to the Finals against the Bulls.

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shaq is certainly better than hakeem. kareem as well.
Offensively, i would agree about Shaq, but defensively no way! Kareem played in mostly the previous era, so hard to compare. I will say this, skillwise, Hakeem probably trumps both. Hakeem could dribble like a guard and drive to the hoop, hit that 15-17 ft jumper pretty consistently facing up, posting up turnaround jump shots(dream shake),some baby hook shots, and best foot movement in the game.

Defensively, he would block shots not like many others today where they would just whack the ball out of bounds. He would block the ball to his teammates. He mentioned about guiding his blocks to his teammates. Pretty smart. His weak side defensive help was like no other. He would go out to block perimeter shots from guards too during his younger days.

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Old 03-06-2010, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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Offensively, i would agree about Shaq, but defensively no way! Kareem played in mostly the previous era, so hard to compare. I will say this, skillwise, Hakeem probably trumps both. Hakeem could dribble like a guard and drive to the hoop, hit that 15-17 ft jumper pretty consistently facing up, posting up turnaround jump shots(dream shake),some baby hook shots, and best foot movement in the game.

Defensively, he would block shots not like many others today where they would just whack the ball out of bounds. He would block the ball to his teammates. He mentioned about guiding his blocks to his teammates. Pretty smart. His weak side defensive help was like no other. He would go out to block perimeter shots from guards too during his younger days.
Exactly - the most athletic center of all time? Definitely.

He played soccer as a youth and developed outstanding hand/eye coordination (every big man should play soccer or handball (Nowitzki played handball) - we wouldn't have any stiffs in the league if that were the case, imo.
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:10 PM
 
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So Wilt's fault is the level competition, not his talent? I'm sure there are several HOF'ers that would love to hear your opinion of their (dis) abilities and medical conditions! Arguments can be made for any of these players but there is no definitive answer on the subject. Different eras, teams, styles, coaches and a host of other intangibles.

And I was a Rockets fan because of Hakeem, by the way.
george mikan is a hall of famer, lookin like this:



^lmao looks like david letterman. what do u think a player like dwight howard would do to this unathletic (yet hall of fame) skeleton lol
robinson, ewing, all the recent centers would've broken this fool in half
and that goes for everybody playing in that era and the era that wilt played in.
players who played before like.. 1980 are a joke. 80s+ produced the best players ever- bird, magic, hakeem, Jordan etc.
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Old 03-06-2010, 10:08 PM
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"Soccer move" or "Sucker move"...LOL


YouTube - Hakeem Olajuwon- The Dream Shake
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Old 03-07-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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abusing ewing and robinson(again)
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Old 03-08-2010, 06:50 PM
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Olajuwon from his college days to the NBA moving like a gazelle...oh Ralph Sampson was mixed in there.


YouTube - Ralph Sampson Y Hakeem Olajuwon
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