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Old 04-20-2013, 07:16 PM
 
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This thread is not about Katrina. . If there's one thing I'm tired of talking about, that's it. This thread is about a police lock down, and whether that is a reasonable thing to accommodate in times of danger. I hold that it is not.
Why do you hold that lock down was not reasonable? Not in the hypothetical but specific to what you knew about this case and the suspects prior to suspect 2 being apprehended?

What would your course of action been had you been a resident, with your family in this neighborhood? Where would you have gone presuming you refused, as you stated on another post, you told the authorities "hell no"? Would you have gone bearing arms? And how forceful would you be willing to be with the police officers, whom you have accused of violating your constitutional rights?


Finally, to the hypothetical. If your actions caused the death of a police officer or a family member, would you still feel your actions were justified to protect your constitutional rights?
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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Where's the proof that these guys actually did it? They had backpacks?

Guilty until prooved not guilty! Someone had to pay for this with their life.

Is this American justice and democracy?
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Needham, MA
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Where's the proof that these guys actually did it? They had backpacks?

Guilty until prooved not guilty! Someone had to pay for this with their life.

Is this American justice and democracy?
Do innocent people when being chased by the police throw bombs at them? That's just my opinion though. Clearly, there will be a trial and at it's conclusion I have no doubt this scum bag will be found guilty.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:44 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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I have read this post several times now and I still have no idea what point you are trying to make. You do understand that Nazi Germany was a police state, right? And aren't we all posting on the internet under pseudonyms?
There are people on CD who post under their real names.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:53 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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This is ridiculous. The guy speaks out about overextension of police policies, and you accuse him of hiding something? In your fantasy world, anybody who doesn't like an overwhelming police presence is possibly a terrace?
I prefer patios.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Do innocent people when being chased by the police throw bombs at them? That's just my opinion though. Clearly, there will be a trial and at it's conclusion I have no doubt this scum bag will be found guilty.
Yes - most innocent people in Cambridge don't car jack people and tell the person they carjack "we are the Boston Marathon bombers", nor do the have a several identical bombs in their homes, nor will most Cambridge kids hide under a boat bleeding to death until discovered by Police and then fire 20 shots at the officers.

And it may surprise some people, but most Cambridge kids don't have any bombs at all.

Other than that, yeah, granted, we assume they are innocent until proven guilty.

But that does bring up a question. What kind of guns did they have, where did they get them? Were the registered legally? And what about all that ammo - where did they acquire that? I can't think of a gun store in Cambridge.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:31 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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Where's the proof that these guys actually did it? They had backpacks?

Guilty until prooved not guilty! Someone had to pay for this with their life.

Is this American justice and democracy?
Ummm... they carjacked a person's vehicle at gunpoint, then shot and killed an MIT police officer (for no good reason as he was just sitting in his patrol car and not chasing or confronting them), AND shot at pursuing law enforcement (injuring a MBTA officer)... AND threw explosives at pursing LEO's... and the suspect that was killed was wearing an explosives laden vest and shooting at police.

The lesson here is that if you are innocent, DON'T run from LEO's while trying to kill them with guns and bombs.
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Old 04-20-2013, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Ummm... they carjacked a person's vehicle at gunpoint, then shot and killed an MIT police officer (for no good reason as he was just sitting in his patrol car and not chasing or confronting them), AND shot at pursuing law enforcement (injuring a MBTA officer)... AND threw explosives at pursing LEO's... and the suspect that was killed was wearing an explosives laden vest and shooting at police.

The lesson here is that if you are innocent, DON'T run from LEO's while trying to kill them with guns and bombs.
For those who did not have an opportunity to attend Harvard, here's a free primer that the Marathon Scum apparently missed.

Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police! - YouTube
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Do innocent people when being chased by the police throw bombs at them? That's just my opinion though. Clearly, there will be a trial and at it's conclusion I have no doubt this scum bag will be found guilty.
All according to who? CNN? So he shoots and kills an officer, then hijacks a car and then according to the same press he releases the driver with no harm? If he was a terrorist and mass murderer, why the heck would he hijack a car and release the owner unharmed? That is something that doesn't seem right. His father, mother and friends all say they are not terrorists. None of it makes sense.

Every day people die via shootings and crime, and yet the cities are never locked down. As soon as the word terrorist is used, their goes your rights. Don't you people see it? This is simply a test to see how far people can be pushed around. It is sad in my opinion.
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:40 PM
 
Location: says MA on my license but can be found wandering the beaches of RI
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All according to who? CNN? So he shoots and kills an officer, then hijacks a car and then according to the same press he releases the driver with no harm? If he was a terrorist and mass murderer, why the heck would he hijack a car and release the owner unharmed? That is something that doesn't seem right. His father, mother and friends all say they are not terrorists. None of it makes sense.

Every day people die via shootings and crime, and yet the cities are never locked down. As soon as the word terrorist is used, their goes your rights. Don't you people see it? This is simply a test to see how far people can be pushed around. It is sad in my opinion.
All I can do is shake my head at this.

Or throw up.

Take your pick.
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