Californians Against Waste (Riverside, Orange: home, gated, food)

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

It amazes me how many are still to lazy to sort recyclables. Much the less try to get their CRV deposit back.

I don't worry about crv, it is how I give back to the less fortunat.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

It amazes me how many are still to lazy to sort recyclables. Much the less try to get their CRV deposit back.

We used to have three different little bins until a few years ago when Greenwaste switched to one big blue one for all recyclables, and one big green one for yard trimmings. Makes it easier for them since they don't have to get out of their trucks for collection, instead using the big clamping arm thing to grab and dump receptacles. So now we use the old bins for separating what we want to take to the recycle place for $$ and what we want to have picked up in front of the house.

[Tulemutt]

Another great topic.
There's a new documentary up for an Oscar. It's about people who survive by recycling cans and bottles. The title is, wait for it --- "Redemption". Perfect. The film isn't made in California but it could be here just as well. Fontucky could be a star.
Lives of 'Canners' Come Up for Oscar Moment - WSJ.com

[Senno]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Another great topic.
There's a new documentary up for an Oscar. It's about people who survive by recycling cans and bottles. The title is, wait for it --- "Redemption". Perfect. The film isn't made in California but it could be here just as well. Fontucky could be a star.
Lives of 'Canners' Come Up for Oscar Moment - WSJ.com

I've never asked but I think the guy I let collect my plastics survives by recycling and SSI. He gets some oranges from me also.

[nullgeo]

Now thing is: to keep this thread here in the California forum we have to relate our recycling / Zero Waste thoughts and comments to, well, California ...MOD CUT... but point is to note things like -- well, I live in Hawaii part of the year and the people of Hawaii, love em as I do anyway, are actually very trashy. Other than the groomed tourist areas, I have never seen a paradisical landscape so disregarded. California is doing better by far. No comparison. I am impressed. I wonder how much is simply the care of the citizens, and whether any real degree has to do with the focus on recycling keeping the trash off the landscape?

[Senno]

I'm in Fresno and my guy who collects my plastics surely lives around here cause he's walking his route several times a week.

[nullgeo]

That said above, it is also my hope that readers here will learn the difference between basic recycling and the actual Zero Waste concept. Zero Waste as a term was initially coined by a physicist in Oakland working with wastewater. That was in the 1970's ... and the term has since taken off into a global movement concerned not only with basic recycling, but how to build products that are constructed with reuse of parts and components in mind. It even extends to creating government policy to support the effort to create a totally sustainable civilization, rather than an intentionally wasteful one ... intentional waste was the driving force behind the birth of 20th century consumerism to build the new economy. Obviously, that is not sustainable.

So, anyway, California once again led the birth of a global movement -- this one toward sustainability. Cool huh? These are examples of the ways which California forces change. Certain people here love to complain about innovative regulations being "over-regulated" ... but this is how the world moves forward ... with California leading the way. You can't afford a better future for your next generations?

[Senno]

I promise I read your link. I was just helping topicality along for once by addressing CA.

Learned about it with the last thread also.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by nullgeo

So, anyway, California once again led the birth of a global movement -- this one toward sustainability. Cool huh? These are examples of the ways which California forces change. Certain people here love to complain about innovative regulations being "over-regulated" ... but this is how the world moves forward ... with California leading the way. You can't afford a better future for your next generations?

I am all for recycling and what not, but that statement is just silly. The world does not move with California environmental practices. What we are doing by not polluting does not mean much when you look at the pollution levels of China/India. This is more to make you feel good than actually fix anything.

I am not saying we shouldn't reduce waste, but to pretend we are saving the world for our grandchildren is reaching.

Just a little food for thought, the Laki volcano that exploded in 1783 in ice land caused change in weather so severe that ice was seen in gulf of Mexico.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laki

The recent eruption in Iceland in 2010 was thankfully not as severe, but this sort of event is what real climate damage looks like.

[TrueTimbers]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

I am all for recycling and what not, but that statement is just silly. The world does not move with California environmental practices. What we are doing by not polluting does not mean much when you look at the pollution levels of China/India. This is more to make you feel good than actually fix anything.

I am not saying we shouldn't reduce waste, but to pretend we are saving the world for our grandchildren is reaching.

Just a little food for thought, the Laki volcano that exploded in 1783 in ice land caused change in weather so severe that ice was seen in gulf of Mexico.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laki

The recent eruption in Iceland in 2010 was thankfully not as severe, but this sort of event is what real climate damage looks like.

IMO it does "move" with California's leads... Maybe not the world...(They are generally way ahead) but the rest of backwards America does...