Another heatwave for California and the West while Midwest, South and East cools down (San Diego: office, commute)

[DriveNotCommute]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

I guess you are forgetting about Arizona, Florida, Texas, Utah.

Keep in mind summer doesn't end until Sept 20/21 so its actually summer all over the entire country.

Whenever I start wishing that the weather would cool down in September, I just remember that the 2007 wildfires (Malibu, Santiago Canyon, San Diego, and others all simultaneously) were all in October.

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by DriveNotCommute

Whenever I start wishing that the weather would cool down in September, I just remember that the 2007 wildfires (Malibu, Santiago Canyon, San Diego, and others all simultaneously) were all in October.

*Up here in Sacramento, October is a much cooler month than SoCal. Our low temps drop into low 50s and upper 40s. A lot more deciduous trees that lose their leaves, it's crisp and cool. A chance of a real winter type cold soaking rain storm (not a sub-tropical monsoon type that SoCal or Arizona gets), more like a Pacific Northwest type of storm, cold heavy mountain-snow-producing, lots of soaking rain in the Sacramento Valley.

Instead, in these drought years, the Sacramento area has had SoCal-type-wildfires in the Sierra foothills that we have not ever had in the 150 years of weather data. All of our worst fires have been in the last 3-4 years, prior to that, wildfires were very rare. The Pacific Northwest also as had the worst amount of wildfires ever; its becoming more common up there too.

*In average-normal weather, non-drought years.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by jbunniii

Digging the nice breezy 75 degree weather today. Unfortunately it's supposed to be 100 degrees again on Sunday (in south San Jose, at least), so we're not out of the furnace yet.

I just arrived in the Bay Area from NM, which has cooled off unusually early in the season (Sept. there is usually still in the high 80's or 90, even). I was stepping out in the mornings to nice cool breezes in northern NM. I can't get my mind around the fact that it's hotter around the Bay than in the desert. But at least the fog still comes in to cool things off at night. I had fans going all night, where I'm staying, to cool the house off for the day. Still, this is crazy! I'm told the whole weekend is expected to be unusually hot. I'm glad I'm leaving for Puget Sound in a few days.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

I guess you are forgetting about Arizona, Florida, Texas, Utah.

Keep in mind summer doesn't end until Sept 20/21 so its actually summer all over the entire country.

That doesn't mean everywhere is still getting typical summer weather though.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

*Up here in Sacramento, October is a much cooler month than SoCal. Our low temps drop into low 50s and upper 40s. A lot more deciduous trees that lose their leaves, it's crisp and cool. A chance of a real winter type cold soaking rain storm (not a sub-tropical monsoon type that SoCal or Arizona gets), more like a Pacific Northwest type of storm, cold heavy mountain-snow-producing, lots of soaking rain in the Sacramento Valley.

Instead, in these drought years, the Sacramento area has had SoCal-type-wildfires in the Sierra foothills that we have not ever had in the 150 years of weather data. All of our worst fires have been in the last 3-4 years, prior to that, wildfires were very rare. The Pacific Northwest also as had the worst amount of wildfires ever; its becoming more common up there too.

*In average-normal weather, non-drought years.

Wildfires have always occurred in Northern CA,

[Chimérique]

Originally Posted by sav858

Wildfires have always occurred in Northern CA,

Just as wildfires have always occurred in the Western United States including the Pacific Northwest.

But they have never occurred with such frequency and severity; nor have they and started so early in the season and ended so late in the season. Sounds like you are ignoring the impact of 3-5 years of drought and 2 years of severe drought; it has it consequences.

[Repulsiveriff]

Hopefull this winter will be a rainy one, on the other hand if the drought eventually there will be nothing left to burn

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Chimérique

Just as wildfires have always occurred in the Western United States including the Pacific Northwest.

But they have never occurred with such frequency and severity; nor have they and started so early in the season and ended so late in the season. Sounds like you are ignoring the impact of 3-5 years of drought and 2 years of severe drought; it has it consequences.

I was never disputing the effects of the drought on wildfires, just your statement that they were rare before.

[viceversa]

Originally Posted by sav858

Wildfires have always occurred in Northern CA,

90% of all wildfires are caused by humans. Majority of them white people.

http://abc13.com/news/man-faces-arso...ldfire/315671/

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...ho_set_79.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ldfire-n384851

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/09/...a.fire.arrest/

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/6...re.html?pg=all

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...fire/30613585/

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21553786/n.../#.Vf8XFJdjzHk

[sav858]

Ok....